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What are the differences between the Bosch 4100 & GTS 1031 ?

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  • #89190
    Anonymous
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    I know we have reviews now for both of these table saws and they’re great at covering the important stuff as I read through them both but beings I don’t know much about them I’m still confused on some of the exact not so important little differences. I’ve read about both on the Bosch site too but I’ve found such inconsistencies on there I thought I better ask you guys to be sure.

    I know the size of the motors are the same, After that I’m not sure about a few minor things. I’m needing to know about actual all around dimensions and why does one have just a frame? Do they both have the same slide out and fence mechanisms? Are the miter gauges the same? Safety features? Which one do you like better and why? Thanks.

    #89442

    I think that the lighter one only rips to 18 inches or something and the bigger saw rips wider stock.

    Orange County, CA

    #89454
    mattryyc
    Pro
    Calgary, Alberta

    Rip capacity is a big one – 18″ for the GTS1031 vs 25″ for the 4100. The 4100 will carry a larger dado set and has some other minor differences. Both are 15A motors, but the 4100 has the electronics to give a little more power in tougher material to keep the blade speed up.

    The GTS1031 is all about portability – it’s 52lbs vs 60lbs for the 4100, and the GTS has some additional handles on it to make it easier to carry with one hand. I went for the GTS1031 over the 4100 just for the compact size, generally the 4100 is usually on the gravity rise stand, it’s often sold as a package (4100-09).

    #89510

    Cool…thanks, Matt. I liked your review of this saw. It seems capable for its size.

    Orange County, CA

    #89541
    DirtyWhiteBoy
    Pro
    Honolulu,, Hi.

    Matt did a heck of a job summing it up! The small one is very portable, a grab and go saw. I have one like that but it’s not a Bosch.

    #89562

    This is a great topic Boyd and Matt – great info to help fill in this clueless guy (me)! I am not sure 8 lbs of difference sounds like a whole lot of difference in terms of portability, but I guess the handles and size might help some?

    John S

    #89638
    kzcarp
    Pro

    The 1031 is a lot smaller than the 8# would indicate. The 4100 is a two hand carry, if you are going to carry it. But mostly it should probably live on the gravity -rise stand. The 1031 is a one hand carry, a leg banger but a do-able one hand carry.
    4100, for me anyway is always ready to go on the GR stand. Flip it up and go. Smaller saw ends up being used on the floor or the ground because the stand got left back.
    I’m going to stop typing now be cause my fiaren’t ngers hitting the right keys, and its annoying me.

    kevin

    #89662
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks Matt and Kevin for your input, It all helps to make up my mind. Now I need to decide if the 18″ compared to 25″ would be a hindrance to my uses. I’m toying with the idea of adding a filler plate to mount a router like Brad and was wondering if the 1031 would be ok for that? Either one I chose would get put on a GR stand so weight isn’t really a concern. It’s starting to sound like the 4100 is a bit better though. Any point counter-point to persuade me the other way? Other than the 4100 isn’t on the list LOL

    #89670
    mattryyc
    Pro
    Calgary, Alberta

    This is a great topic Boyd and Matt – great info to help fill in this clueless guy (me)! I am not sure 8 lbs of difference sounds like a whole lot of difference in terms of portability, but I guess the handles and size might help some?

    8lbs doesn’t sound like a lot, but it’s mostly about size, the GTS1031 is quite a bit smaller in terms of dimensions and truly is no problem to lug around with one hand.

    I just had a quick look at dimensions – quite a difference:
    GTS1031: 22.5″ x 22.5″ x 13″
    4100: 37.95″ x 30″ x 16.42″

    I’m toying with the idea of adding a filler plate to mount a router like Brad and was wondering if the 1031 would be ok for that

    I think the 1031 would take a plate, there’s a nice big opening there when you extend the right side so I can’t think of a reason you couldn’t do it.

    ither one I chose would get put on a GR stand so weight isn’t really a concern. It’s starting to sound like the 4100 is a bit better though. Any point counter-point to persuade me the other way? Other than the 4100 isn’t on the list LOL

    If you are going to go with the gravity rise stand and leave it mounted to it, I’d go with the 4100 (assuming price, etc. were the same). The compactness doesn’t really play in as much if you’re using the gravity rise so you might as well get the extra power and rip capacity.

    #89687
    Anonymous
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    I just had a quick look at dimensions – quite a difference:
    GTS1031: 22.5″ x 22.5″ x 13″
    4100: 37.95″ x 30″ x 16.42″

    Wow that is quite a bit of diff, Are those sizes with or without extended mode?? Other than the height of course

    #89693
    mattryyc
    Pro
    Calgary, Alberta

    Wow that is quite a bit of diff, Are those sizes with or without extended mode?? Other than the height of course

    I pulled them off of the Bosch website so I have to assume that those are in their most compact form, I know the GTS extends out to the right quite far so that number is definitely the compact one for the GTS1031.

    #89776
    jkirk
    Moderator
    halifax, nova scotia

    bigger rip capacity and a bigger base are the main things. trying to rip larger sheets on the small saw is very tricky because the saw is more prone to tip over.. with the larger saw the stand has a much wider stance which makes it more stable

    the only time ive had issues ripping 4×8 sheets on the bigger saws was on one specific jobsite.. we had to use 1″ thick MDO which is extrerior grade mdf for all the window trim and it had to be custom milled.. pvc trim was extremely rare and limited here. because of the extra weight of the mdo sheets it required a 3rd man to simply stand at the saw and stabilize it

    heres a tip, dont fart in a space suit

    #89915

    They both look like capable saws. I would personally opt for the bigger saw if Money was not an issue.

    Orange County, CA

    #89968
    DirtyWhiteBoy
    Pro
    Honolulu,, Hi.

    If you were going to mostly use it a shop setting I’d go with the bigger saw. I’d also set it up on the end of a Ron Paulk work table!

    #89994
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    It’s only for in my garage, I just liked the GR stand idea for saving space and if I can add a router to it also like Brad then that saves me even more space from not getting a real router table too. Which brings me to my other question LOL. What? if any, disadvantages are there to putting a router in one compared to a real router table???

    #196240

    I’d love to hear some more thoughts on this thread. I found this site and it was surprisingly helpful with a few more details on the differences between the two (no soft start on the GTS1031).

    http://www.woodworkingtoolsetc.com/bosch-table-saw.html

    And like Dirty said, every accessory docks inside the saw neatly, including the fence – which is nice for portability (not that I need it).

    I’m not quite sure what I would want to do with a table saw in my limited space – I like the idea of the gravity rise stand still because I could probably store the table saw elsewhere in my basement and then move it when I use it. Or even use OA’s table design and add a shelf for the table saw…

    But boy is the GTS compact for storage! (see pic from Toolguyd’s review)

    John S

    #196289
    kurt@welkerhomes.com
    Moderator
    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    I would say with your limited space go with the GTS 1031 as the Gravity rise and saw are considerably more bulky for storage, probably 4 times the space. We just set our compact on short saw horses. We don’t use it for a lot of sheetgoods. It Iis a little small for that. With a track saw, you should not need the larger rip capacity.

    #196701

    Went to Acme Tools hoping to play around a little bit with the two different models and was happy to see them both on display. The fact the GTS 1031 lacks a few features that the 4100 has makes me a little bit hesitant on the GTS 1031, but I am starting to think the smaller one will be plenty good for me. Not to mention it is quite a bit smaller for storage.

    John S

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    #196747
    Anonymous
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    For me it was a no brainer, 4100-09 all the way. Especially when I saw Brads router insert

    #196765
    thedude306
    Moderator
    Foam Lake, SK

    but I think he’s got that fancy festool router table for his MFT. I REALLY like my 4100 but if I was using a track saw all I would use it for is smaller repetitive rips where I think a tracks saw would be a PITA. What features are missing on the smaller table?

    The 4100-09 is big but portable. It requires an outfeed table for full sheet goods. (well anything over 1/4″)

    Brad T
    Self employed Pro since 2014!!

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