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To All Members From The Moderators Desk;

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  • #324286

    Doobie
    Pro
    Ajax, ON

    Basically, just about all the threads in the “Talk around the jobsite” are really lunch room standing around the water cooler subjects that are getting abused for the sake of points to a large extent.

    Maybe if they just eliminated any point value for posting in them would solve the problem. Or maybe just capping how many a member can earn from posts there on a daily basis. Or reduce the earned points from posts there to 100 points only. Of course any of these ideas would be whether it is even possible for the forum scoring mechanism to be able to do such things.

    It is a good forum but there is a lot of useless banter that is there just to collect points. We’re all guilty of it. Some more than others, but at the end of the day, we arguably all have one thing in common on this forum…..we all love tools!

    For me though, I don’t think I’d be here if I was either never feeling I was able to contribute meaningful info or I wasn’t getting meaningful info in return.

    Kevin.

    Support your local VIKING.

    #324330

    redwood
    Pro

    Interestingly I spoke up about something like this quite a while ago and I’ve gone through bouts of disillusionment with the site. Brad’s deck thread helped.

    At this time, I can’t add too much new content as I’m retired and the tools are all put away.

    Mark E.

    Pioneer, CA

    Working Pro 1972 - 2015
    Member since Jan 22, 2013
    www.creative-redwood-designs.com

    #324337

    cranbrook2
    Pro
    Belgrave, Ontario , Canada

    I am also retired from new home construction and renovations but I still do a lot of work on my own house ( full reno ) and I still have 30 years of knowledge on woodworking , framing and yes birdhouse building 🙂

    #324416

    Great sticky @Dabbs! More tools, work photos, and business discussions will be nice!

    Andrew

    A Working Pro since 1995!

    Member since March 26, 2014.

    #324474

    aa_custom
    Pro
    PIttsburgh, PA

    I too haven’t been very active because of all the random, non-trade threads. (Granted I do seem to post in the fishing thread quite a bit, but that’s fishing….)

    I like the idea of no points for non-trade topic threads, or sections. It’s nice to have some off topic stuff, but ranking up points talking about game of thrones or you tube videos seems a bit of an abuse of the site.

    #324484

    Sparky603
    Pro
    Rural, NH

    Rewards are what is luring and keeping a lot of folks here, whether they would admit it or not, so curtailing them is going to have an effect detrimental to the growth of the forum.

    I haven’t been here too long, but looking at older threads, supimeister was very good at starting new, tool-related topics, as a moderator.

    3rd gen. master electrician / electrical contractor. Professional tradesman since 1987.

    #324489

    Boschmanbrian
    Pro
    Montreal , QC, Canada

    I guilty as many others. And agree that if necessary to remove my points for non constructive contributions.
    That being said I have had a couple of occasions past my daily point total, but still contribute to some topics, not everyone is only out for points. I joined this forum for great advice and a tad bit social. It has great insight on construction methods all over the globe. Good knowledge from other trades people.

    Glad I was able to be apart of it.
    Sorry if I have affended some members with a part of my personal life / family life. Thanks BTP.

    #324490

    keko
    Pro

    well said.

    #324491

    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    Rewards are what is luring and keeping a lot of folks here, whether they would admit it or not, so curtailing them is going to have an effect detrimental to the growth of the forum.

    I haven’t been here too long, but looking at older threads, supimeister was very good at starting new, tool-related topics, as a moderator.

    I disagree. While rewards keep some people here (and attract others) I think a lot of us are genuinely interested in talking about what we know and solving related problems. For me, the rewards are just the icing on the cake, not necessarily the whole cake…

    I think limiting the off topic threads will change the dynamic of the site, while not limiting growth. Many people seem to have voiced their opinion in favor of what Dabbs posted.

    Jon P.
    Timber Carpentry & Construction
    https://www.facebook.com/timbercarpentry/
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    #324493

    ChadM
    Moderator
    East Palestine, Ohio

    Rewards are what is luring and keeping a lot of folks here, whether they would admit it or not, so curtailing them is going to have an effect detrimental to the growth of the forum.

    A lot of you have made some valid points but I feel that some of us still are not seeing the issue for what it is. Let us look at this way: totally disregard the point system and the rewards – pretend they do not exist. Now look at the forum. If you came here as a tradesman, a woodworker, a DIY’er, or just somebody with an interest in tools and all that you saw was 20 fluff threads full of 5 word posts and a couple threads that actually discussed what piqued your interest in the forum in the first place, how long would you stick around? Probably not long.

    We have a lot of members here who have tons of experience and are more than willing to share their expertise with anyone who asks. Guys like redwood and calidecks who are nationally recognized in their field – I would bet that Mark has built more decks than I have walked on. Guys like Sven who installs a unique product that probably few of us have experience with. Guys like Brad that have a slew of knowledge across a couple different trades. And a lot more that I don’t feel like two-finger typing out.

    The non trade posts have a place here – I like them. I enjoy the jukebox thread – I have discovered several new artists from posts to that thread. I like the food thread, I like a lot of the regular, everyday conversation type threads. But I really like the fact that I can come to the forum and ask a technical question (whether it be construction, electrical, auto mechanics…) and receive a knowledgeable answer and that I can try to do the same when others ask questions.

    That is the point of this place.

    Edit: @cranbrook2 – I didn’t forget you I just figured with your level of fame you didn’t need to be announced. It would have been like the pit boss announcing to the casino that Sinatra was in the house. LOL.

    Chad

    A Working Pro since 1993

    Member since 12/07/2013

    A Carpenter's Journal

    Housewright Construction

    #324501

    cranbrook2
    Pro
    Belgrave, Ontario , Canada

    Rewards are what is luring and keeping a lot of folks here, whether they would admit it or not, so curtailing them is going to have an effect detrimental to the growth of the forum.

    A lot of you have made some valid points but I feel that some of us still are not seeing the issue for what it is. Let us look at this way: totally disregard the point system and the rewards – pretend they do not exist. Now look at the forum. If you came here as a tradesman, a woodworker, a DIY’er, or just somebody with an interest in tools and all that you saw was 20 fluff threads full of 5 word posts and a couple threads that actually discussed what piqued your interest in the forum in the first place, how long would you stick around? Probably not long.

    We have a lot of members here who have tons of experience and are more than willing to share their expertise with anyone who asks. Guys like redwood and calidecks who are nationally recognized in their field – I would bet that Mark has built more decks than I have walked on. Guys like Sven who installs a unique product that probably few of us have experience with. Guys like Brad that have a slew of knowledge across a couple different trades. And a lot more that I don’t feel like two-finger typing out.

    The non trade posts have a place here – I like them. I enjoy the jukebox thread – I have discovered several new artists from posts to that thread. I like the food thread, I like a lot of the regular, everyday conversation type threads. But I really like the fact that I can come to the forum and ask a technical question (whether it be construction, electrical, auto mechanics…) and receive a knowledgeable answer and that I can try to do the same when others ask questions.

    That is the point of this place.

    You forgot to mention some guys who are not only nationally known but world renowned 🙂

    I have been on woodworking forums and garden forums since I started using a computer in 2005 not one of them had or has a point system but I still am addicted to them just like I am here . Whenever im not working in my shop I am always looking at ways to expand my knowledge of what I love to do and that is woodworking .It has been 90 percent of my life and always will be .

    #324504

    That is the point of this place.

    Great vision Chad.

    A genuine question – what role can DIYers like myself play in light of that?

    John S

    #324506

    ChadM
    Moderator
    East Palestine, Ohio

    That is the point of this place.

    Great vision Chad.

    A genuine question – what role can DIYers like myself play in light of that?

    There are a couple reasons that DIY’ers are important to the site.

    1. You do not have to be a pro to appreciate tools.

    2. You do not have to be a pro to be good at a trade. I know several DIY’ers who are as good if not better than some pros.

    3. The point of a place like this is to learn. As a DIY’er you can learn from the pros and a pro can learn things from a DIY’er. Everyone is guilty of sometimes not seeing the forest because of the trees – a different perspective on a problem can lead to simple solutions.

    Chad

    A Working Pro since 1993

    Member since 12/07/2013

    A Carpenter's Journal

    Housewright Construction

    #324510

    Some great points there @chadm. I appreciate you sharing them. It helps pull it all together.

    #324523

    Doobie
    Pro
    Ajax, ON

    There are a couple reasons that DIY’ers are important to the site.

    1. You do not have to be a pro to appreciate tools.

    2. You do not have to be a pro to be good at a trade. I know several DIY’ers who are as good if not better than some pros.

    3. The point of a place like this is to learn. As a DIY’er you can learn from the pros and a pro can learn things from a DIY’er. Everyone is guilty of sometimes not seeing the forest because of the trees – a different perspective on a problem can lead to simple solutions.

    Thanks for making that note Chad!

    As a DIYer/Woodworker, I know this is primarily a pro contractor’s forum, but it is nice to have it mentioned that the BTP welcome mat is out for us as well.

    Kevin.

    Support your local VIKING.

    #324526

    Seven-Delta-FortyOne
    Pro
    The Emerald Triangle, Northern California

    I’m glad you posted this.

    I rarely post here, and it’s because there is a serious lack of interesting subjects. I have over 2000 posts at CT, because it’s all trade over there, but the place has gotten kind of obnoxious.

    When I do post here, I try to help someone out, or say something useful. But more often than not, the threads that I post on, the OP never comes back to even acknowledge that someone tried to help, or tell us what he ended up doing, and very few other posters even seem interested in trade-related topics.

    And every thread here gets 50 or 100 posts, mostly another poster just saying he has no clue about the subject.

    :wallbash:

    Delta

    Goin' Down In Flames........

    #324531

    Sparky603
    Pro
    Rural, NH

    Many people seem to have voiced their opinion in favor of what Dabbs posted.

    Didn’t say I disagreed with Dabbs at all. I find a lot of threads on here absolutely uninteresting. I’m for limiting the useless threads, as opposed to changing the actual point system like some where suggesting.

    3rd gen. master electrician / electrical contractor. Professional tradesman since 1987.

    #324539

    Excellent post, Dabbs. Thank you!

    Orange County, CA

    #324564

    ChadM
    Moderator
    East Palestine, Ohio

    The point has been made and there has been time for everyone to voice their opinion on what Dabbs had to say. With that in mind, the mods have decided to close this topic to new comments. If anyone has something they would like to add, feel free to send one of the mods a pm.

    Chad

    A Working Pro since 1993

    Member since 12/07/2013

    A Carpenter's Journal

    Housewright Construction

    #336890

    DirtyWhiteBoy
    Pro
    Honolulu,, Hi.

    Has this thread been reopened or is this a mistake?? @Dabbs @chadm ????

    Dirty

    A Working Pro since 1988!

    Member since January 26, 2013.

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