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Sealant for exterior door window grids.

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  • #355774
    EthanB
    Pro
    South Kingstown, RI

    What’s the best adhesive/sealant to use for reattaching the vinyl window grids on exterior doors? I’ve painted a few of these recently and we take them off to paint as they’re a PITA to mask and paint still tends to wick under the grid and be visible from the other side. I’ve run into this a few times so I could use some pointers.

    To clarify, this would be like a Masonite steel or fiberglass door with the double pane glass insert that has an exterior grid on both sides of the glass that screw together and sandwich the glass in place. There’s some insanely sticky sealant around the exterior grid that doesn’t ever pull off evenly, so I’d like to just remove it all and replace when we’re done painting.

    #355775
    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    The last time I worked with that stuff, it seemed like a bituminous product. Stretchy and super sticky. I was only pulling the grid off, not reinstalling it so I can’t say what would be the best adhesive.

    Jon P.
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    #355784
    ChadM
    Moderator
    Rogers, Ohio

    It is probably a mastic sealing tape, it is used a lot in commercial work for sealing door/window/roof penetrations. It comes in black, white, and grey that I know of.

    Chad

    A Working Pro since 1993

    Member since 12/07/2013

    #355804
    Sprokitz
    Pro
    Eastern shore of, Pa
    #355851
    staker
    Pro

    100 percent silicon will also work.

    #355980
    DirtyWhiteBoy
    Pro
    Honolulu,, Hi.

    100 percent silicon will also work.

    I’ve used silicon in the past too. It works great and any excess can cure and then be cut off with a razor blade.

    #356094
    EthanB
    Pro
    South Kingstown, RI

    Silicone is my backup. It’s not so nice for the next guy so I’m hoping to find out what the factories use. I just realized that I could actually just call the factory on Monday and they’ll tell me. We have a place near here that stocks components from a couple manufacturers and actually assembles most basic door styles on the spot.

    Want an outswing 36×80 textured masonite 15 lite door with satin hardware and a 2×6 jamb? Okay, that’ll be ready in one hour. It’s pretty sweet.

    #356387
    SamM
    Pro
    Halifax, NS

    I’m not a fan of silicone. I prefer quad for exterior. I trust it to last better, plus I can wipe it up with paint thinner to get a real nice line if I mess up.

    Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk

    #356389
    cranbrook2
    Pro
    Belgrave, Ontario , Canada

    I’m not a fan of silicone. I prefer quad for exterior. I trust it to last better, plus I can wipe it up with paint thinner to get a real nice line if I mess up.

    Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk

    What is quad ? I have only ever seen silicone around here .

    #356404

    @EthanB get 3m vhb tape. It will be as solid as a rock when applied.

    Andrew

    A Working Pro since 1995!

    Member since March 26, 2014.

    #356434
    SamM
    Pro
    Halifax, NS

    SamM wrote:I’m not a fan of silicone. I prefer quad for exterior. I trust it to last better, plus I can wipe it up with paint thinner to get a real nice line if I mess up.

    Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk

    What is quad ? I have only ever seen silicone around here .

    http://www.lepageproducts.com/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=98

    I’ve been really happy with the results from this stuff.

    #356479
    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    SamM wrote:I’m not a fan of silicone. I prefer quad for exterior. I trust it to last better, plus I can wipe it up with paint thinner to get a real nice line if I mess up.

    Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk

    What is quad ? I have only ever seen silicone around here .

    http://www.lepageproducts.com/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=98

    I’ve been really happy with the results from this stuff.

    I’ve never heard of Lepage Quad. I use OSI Quad myself. It’s about the stickiest stuff you can imagine and basically adheres to any substrate. It tools with soap and water, Cleans up with acetone. After its cured, it has to be mechanically removed. Good stuff, IMO.

    http://www.menards.com/main/paint/caulks-sealants/butyl-caulk/osi-quad-voc-clear-advanced-formula-outdoor-sealant-10-oz/p-1860714-c-7930.htm

    Jon P.
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    #356514
    DirtyWhiteBoy
    Pro
    Honolulu,, Hi.

    It’s not so nice for the next guy so I’m hoping to find out what the factories use.

    Removing grids with Silicone is easy and it is a preferred sealant.

    #534756
    theamcguy
    Pro
    Fayetteville, NC

    I never heard of Quad either but from the reviews it seems like pretty tough stuff. Does Quad shrink over time? The problem I have is shrinkage, after a few years on the exterior of the house gaps open up.

    Automotive Pro
    Fayetteville, NC

    #534888
    kurt@welkerhomes.com
    Moderator
    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    SamM wrote:I’m not a fan of silicone. I prefer quad for exterior. I trust it to last better, plus I can wipe it up with paint thinner to get a real nice line if I mess up.

    Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk

    What is quad ? I have only ever seen silicone around here .

    http://www.lepageproducts.com/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=98

    I’ve been really happy with the results from this stuff.

    I’ve never heard of Lepage Quad. I use OSI Quad myself. It’s about the stickiest stuff you can imagine and basically adheres to any substrate. It tools with soap and water, Cleans up with acetone. After its cured, it has to be mechanically removed. Good stuff, IMO.

    http://www.menards.com/main/paint/caulks-sealants/butyl-caulk/osi-quad-voc-clear-advanced-formula-outdoor-sealant-10-oz/p-1860714-c-7930.htm

    I have never been able to get the OSI Quad to clean with soap & water or tool with it. Mineral spirits is the only cleanup or lubrication for tooling that I have had any success with.

    #534892
    jkirk
    Moderator
    halifax, nova scotia

    why not just check with any of the local window and door suppliers sales counters.. i know locally if we need something like that we can just get it at the window counter at our lumber yard

    heres a tip, dont fart in a space suit

    #535051

    Tried no other but Silicone, so far none yet gave up that early even years of use for fiberglass sliding door.

    #536333
    Clev08
    Pro

    SamM wrote:I’m not a fan of silicone. I prefer quad for exterior. I trust it to last better, plus I can wipe it up with paint thinner to get a real nice line if I mess up.

    Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk

    What is quad ? I have only ever seen silicone around here .

    http://www.lepageproducts.com/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=98

    I’ve been really happy with the results from this stuff.

    I’ve never heard of Lepage Quad. I use OSI Quad myself. It’s about the stickiest stuff you can imagine and basically adheres to any substrate. It tools with soap and water, Cleans up with acetone. After its cured, it has to be mechanically removed. Good stuff, IMO.

    http://www.menards.com/main/paint/caulks-sealants/butyl-caulk/osi-quad-voc-clear-advanced-formula-outdoor-sealant-10-oz/p-1860714-c-7930.htm

    I have never been able to get the OSI Quad to clean with soap & water or tool with it. Mineral spirits is the only cleanup or lubrication for tooling that I have had any success with.

    Is the OSI Quad the stuff that says it is self tooling? We always tool it anyway because it doesn’t tool itself very well lol

    #536389
    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    SamM wrote:I’m not a fan of silicone. I prefer quad for exterior. I trust it to last better, plus I can wipe it up with paint thinner to get a real nice line if I mess up.

    Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk

    What is quad ? I have only ever seen silicone around here .

    http://www.lepageproducts.com/ProductDetail.aspx?pid=98

    I’ve been really happy with the results from this stuff.

    I’ve never heard of Lepage Quad. I use OSI Quad myself. It’s about the stickiest stuff you can imagine and basically adheres to any substrate. It tools with soap and water, Cleans up with acetone. After its cured, it has to be mechanically removed. Good stuff, IMO.

    http://www.menards.com/main/paint/caulks-sealants/butyl-caulk/osi-quad-voc-clear-advanced-formula-outdoor-sealant-10-oz/p-1860714-c-7930.htm

    I have never been able to get the OSI Quad to clean with soap & water or tool with it. Mineral spirits is the only cleanup or lubrication for tooling that I have had any success with.

    Is the OSI Quad the stuff that says it is self tooling? We always tool it anyway because it doesn’t tool itself very well lol

    I was actually reading a tube today…it says NOT to tool it oddly enough. I always do, but you should expect it to stick like heck to your finger. Soap and water helps a lot, but it will still stick to you. It’s definelty not self leveling though. It is Really thick.

    Jon P.
    Timber Carpentry & Construction
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    #536416

    The new Quad does allow tooling but you are correct that the older stuff didn’t want you to tool the joint.

    Andrew

    A Working Pro since 1995!

    Member since March 26, 2014.

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