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Old Delta 37-220 jointer with stuck table

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  • #749925
    tfack
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    Hi,
    I recently picked up an old 37-220 (FC series, circa 1972 I think) and the rear table appears to be stuck all the way up. The mechanism that normally moves left/right when you rotate the wheel doesn’t move, and it feels like you’ll strip the threads if you force it. I have no clue how to open this thing up. Any ideas/thoughts? Thanks!

    #749948

    Hi,

    I recently picked up an old 37-220 (FC series, circa 1972 I think) and the rear table appears to be stuck all the way up. The mechanism that normally moves left/right when you rotate the wheel doesn’t move, and it feels like you’ll strip the threads if you force it. I have no clue how to open this thing up. Any ideas/thoughts? Thanks!



    @JimDaddyO
    @GTokley @doobie these guys use woodworking machines , they definitely may be able to give you some guidance 👍

    #749949
    roninohio
    Pro
    New Franklin, OH

    I’m not positive but it may have a Allen set screw that holds it from moving. Google the model number and you should be able to find a manual .

    #749955
    JimDaddyO
    Pro
    Wawa, ON

    The rear (outfeed) table is not adjusted on a regular basis. It is only moved for set up and alignment now and then (usually once initially and very rarely after that). There is a set screw that locks it in place. It should be level with the blades at the top of their travel.

    It is the front (infeed) table that controls the depth of cut and is adjusted to do so.

    https://www.mikestools.com/download/Delta-Jointer-Owners-manuals/37-220.pdf

    My You Tube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5AretE3xPoVDV61AxUdUA

    I don't do a fast job. I don't do a slow job. I do a half fast job.

    #749965
    tfack
    Pro

    I realize that the outfeed table height is normally locked and left, but in my case the lock bolt appears to be missing (the stub is all mangled like they had a visegrips on there). Here’s a closer photo of it.

    The outfeed table appears to be stuck in the high position because when you try to run a board through it with the infeed adjusted to “0”, the blade cuts about 3/8″ off the board for the width of the blade and then it runs smack into the edge of the outfeed table.

    #749967
    GTokley
    Pro
    Belleville, ON

    The rear (outfeed) table is not adjusted on a regular basis. It is only moved for set up and alignment now and then (usually once initially and very rarely after that). There is a set screw that locks it in place. It should be level with the blades at the top of their travel.

    It is the front (infeed) table that controls the depth of cut and is adjusted to do so.

    https://www.mikestools.com/download/Delta-Jointer-Owners-manuals/37-220.pdf

    I second what Jim says.

    I realize that the outfeed table height is normally locked and left, but in my case the lock bolt appears to be missing (the stub is all mangled like they had a visegrips on there). Here’s a closer photo of it.

    The outfeed table appears to be stuck in the high position because when you try to run a board through it with the infeed adjusted to “0”, the blade cuts about 3/8″ off the board for the width of the blade and then it runs smack into the edge of the outfeed table.

    You might want to try putting some penetrating oil on the threads of that bolt. Try and clean the sawdust out of that bolt too.
    Is there not a locking bolt on both sides of the table.

    You will probably will still have use vise grips on that bolt if you can’t get a wrench on it.

    Greg
    Do More of What Makes You Happy

    #749970
    JimDaddyO
    Pro
    Wawa, ON

    lock bolt appears to be missing

    Yes, it looks messed up. You may have to resort to vise grips yourself to get it out. Maybe a blue wrench (torch) and a liberal amount of heat. Some penetrating oil is also a good idea. When you get it out, throw it away and get something a bit more suitable in there. That one may even have the wrong thread on it, in which case a tap to chase the threads would be a good idea. It may be a good idea to chase the threads in any case.

    My You Tube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5AretE3xPoVDV61AxUdUA

    I don't do a fast job. I don't do a slow job. I do a half fast job.

    #749984
    tfack
    Pro

    Problem solved! Nothing a little compressed air and PB Blaster can’t solve, apparently! Thanks everyone for your help and ideas!

    The once-square lock screw is now basically round from who knows how many vice grips, wondering if something like this could be replaced?

    Now that it’s working, now I have to tune it up so it’s actually true. I’ve read a few posts referencing a VHS tape by John White called “Tuning Up A Jointer”, any other resources you’d recommend?

    Thanks!

    #749986
    GTokley
    Pro
    Belleville, ON

    Problem solved! Nothing a little compressed air and PB Blaster can’t solve, apparently! Thanks everyone for your help and ideas!

    The once-square lock screw is now basically round from who knows how many vice grips, wondering if something like this could be replaced?

    Now that it’s working, now I have to tune it up so it’s actually true. I’ve read a few posts referencing a VHS tape by John White called “Tuning Up A Jointer”, any other resources you’d recommend?

    Thanks!

    That is awesome news @tfack. It looks like the threads of the locking screw are damaged alittle. Good to hear you got it out. It might have a hard finding a replacement due the age of the machine. You will have find a bolt the right threads and carefully grind that same taper as the old screw. You could also weld a nut to the end of the old bolt and chase the threads with die from tap and die set.

    Since your new to BTP. You should go over to the Introduce Yourself thread. I am sure the guys would like to hear about you. By the way Welcome to BTP!
    https://bethepro.com/forums/topic/introduce-yourself-v4-0/page/41/

    Greg
    Do More of What Makes You Happy

    #749990
    JimDaddyO
    Pro
    Wawa, ON

    You don’t need all the same expenisive tools, but here is a good run down of how it ought to be set up. You may have to use shims or other method on your machine.

    Congrats on getting the first step done with getting that bolt out.

    My You Tube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5AretE3xPoVDV61AxUdUA

    I don't do a fast job. I don't do a slow job. I do a half fast job.

    #749992
    JimDaddyO
    Pro
    Wawa, ON

    …and here are 3 videos I made with an old Rockwell….

    My You Tube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCA5AretE3xPoVDV61AxUdUA

    I don't do a fast job. I don't do a slow job. I do a half fast job.

    #749995
    GTokley
    Pro
    Belleville, ON

    Also you should put a lubricate that saw dust won’t stick too on the threads of the adjustment screw/. You also use wax.

    Greg
    Do More of What Makes You Happy

    #750038
    GTokley
    Pro
    Belleville, ON

    @tfack If want you can check out http://www.vintagemachinery.org/ website. There is alot information on this website.

    Greg
    Do More of What Makes You Happy

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