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  • #501218

    I use the Bostich 15Ga for larger trims and most recently on a porch roof with tongue and groove cedar. The larger nails hold better and got them in stainless.

    #501228

    jkirk
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    halifax, nova scotia

    How do you get the base to follow a wall tightly with an 18 gauge. Some times I’ll only use 18 if it is a small pice that I have glued. But most of the time anything into sheet rock is 15ga. And on square 3/4 headers all 15ga. I know the first fuel I’m getting is 18 then 15. I don’t know what I’d need the 16 for other than my tool addiction. It’s not strong enough for most stuff and too big of a hole for nailing into jamb material.

    an 18a with 2″ nails in to a stud will could 1/2″ thick bace tight to the wall. or at lest it has for me

    I use 18ga. for base all the time too, it has never fallen off before the caulk went on.

    I’m my experience, the bead of caulking that you would run at the top edge of paint grade base does more holding than the nails. That’s not to say that they nails arent’t doing anything, but that the caulking is really going the extra mile to keep the base tight to the wall.

    Hitting the studs with an 18ga is generally enough. If you are having issues with the trim not conforming to the wall, perhaps the issue goes back to poor framing? Walls that are not straight and flat will be more difficult to install trim on.

    new walls are one thing.. in renovations most homes are i work in are still plaster and the walls are nowhere near flat .. the framing might be good but hte plaster itself can be all over the place, the base can have up to 1/4 ” gaps on 2 -3 ft, so you really need to push in on hit.. also old floors are up and down so there are times that i have to use a spring board to push the base down tight to the floor instead of scribing it. besides 18 gauge nailers just dont have the power to drive through 3/4 mdf and then 3/4- 1″ of plaster to hit the stud

    heres a tip, dont fart in a space suit

    #501255

    Austin
    Pro
    Covington, KY

    @jkirk that is the same reason I always use 15 gauge too. The last house I worked on was almost 100 years old. Some of the walls the client didnt want to demo and they looked like the ocean. No way a smaller nail would have worked.

    #502526

    Austin
    Pro
    Covington, KY

    This is a mock up piece that I put up toady, but this is the reason we always use 15 gauge. 90% of the time we work with stuff this big.

    #502532

    ChadM
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    East Palestine, Ohio

    This is a mock up piece that I put up toady, but this is the reason we always use 15 gauge. 90% of the time we work with stuff this big.

    Yeah, big crown like that I use 15 gauge too. Sometimes I will also rip a 2×4 in half and mount it on the ceiling behind the crown so I can nail wherever I want instead of only where the trusses/CJ’s are.

    Chad

    A Working Pro since 1993

    Member since 12/07/2013

    #502587

    Clev08
    Pro

    This is a mock up piece that I put up toady, but this is the reason we always use 15 gauge. 90% of the time we work with stuff this big.

    Yeah, big crown like that I use 15 gauge too. Sometimes I will also rip a 2×4 in half and mount it on the ceiling behind the crown so I can nail wherever I want instead of only where the trusses/CJ’s are.

    We used that trick at the last two houses we installed crown it. It makes it much easier to nail and you don’t have any extra holes from missing a stud

    #502631

    This is a mock up piece that I put up toady, but this is the reason we always use 15 gauge. 90% of the time we work with stuff this big.

    Getting the trim up before the tapers get into do there thing or they backed up with work .

    Always willing to learn .

    #502632

    Austin
    Pro
    Covington, KY

    @skillman look at the first sentence lol

    #502636

    jponto07
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    Bloomington, IN

    At the risk of complete derailing this thread…I’m going to ask anyway. Isn’t your crown “upside down”? I realize it Can be installed either way, but I typically install it with the smaller cove at the top.

    Also, I’m really jealous that you get to install something so big. What is the room like that this will be going into?

    Jon P.
    Timber Carpentry & Construction
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    #502643

    @skillman look at the first sentence lol

    Lol . . . . My bad i was multitasking with my daughters at the same time .

    Always willing to learn .

    #502653

    Austin
    Pro
    Covington, KY

    At the risk of complete derailing this thread…I’m going to ask anyway. Isn’t your crown “upside down”? I realize it Can be installed either way, but I typically install it with the smaller cove at the top.

    Also, I’m really jealous that you get to install something so big. What is the room like that this will be going into?

    Oh no your not one of those people that think the smaller cove should be at the top. That way is upside down and it drives me nuts hen people put it like that lol. The room is a big great room in a 15 story pent house apartment. There are a couple balconies in that room a big fire place ope kitchen. I want to say the room is like 90×60 foot somewhere around that but its big.

    #502655

    roninohio
    Pro
    New Franklin, OH

    I have been looking to buy the Hitachi 15 gauge finish nailer since my new boss got one. Sunday as I was in Wally World I stumbled on a Campbell Hausfeld 16 gauge finish nailer in the clearance bin for $35.00 . It shoots up to 2 1/2″. I thought for that price it was worth trying. Not what I would normally buy. I will try it out tomorrow and see if it is any account. I still want the 15 gauge.

    #503336

    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    At the risk of complete derailing this thread…I’m going to ask anyway. Isn’t your crown “upside down”? I realize it Can be installed either way, but I typically install it with the smaller cove at the top.

    Also, I’m really jealous that you get to install something so big. What is the room like that this will be going into?

    Oh no your not one of those people that think the smaller cove should be at the top. That way is upside down and it drives me nuts hen people put it like that lol. The room is a big great room in a 15 story pent house apartment. There are a couple balconies in that room a big fire place ope kitchen. I want to say the room is like 90×60 foot somewhere around that but its big.

    I see it both ways, but I guess my eyes prefer it opposite from the way you do it! Crown that big is going to look great either way. 60×90…wow. What does a large profile crown like that sell for?

    Jon P.
    Timber Carpentry & Construction
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    #503344

    Austin
    Pro
    Covington, KY

    A couple million at least for the place and they are putting another couple million into it, the pent house used to belong to reds hall of famer Barry Larkin

    #503360

    Boschmanbrian
    Pro
    Montreal , QC, Canada

    At the risk of complete derailing this thread…I’m going to ask anyway. Isn’t your crown “upside down”? I realize it Can be installed either way, but I typically install it with the smaller cove at the top.

    Also, I’m really jealous that you get to install something so big. What is the room like that this will be going into?

    Oh no your not one of those people that think the smaller cove should be at the top. That way is upside down and it drives me nuts hen people put it like that lol. The room is a big great room in a 15 story pent house apartment. There are a couple balconies in that room a big fire place ope kitchen. I want to say the room is like 90×60 foot somewhere around that but its big.

    I see it both ways, but I guess my eyes prefer it opposite from the way you do it! Crown that big is going to look great either way. 60×90…wow. What does a large profile crown like that sell for?

    I am actually with Jon on this one , just because the more detailed area is closer to the ceiling , thats ceilings uasually painted mat white , but mind you now adays they paint them so many diff colors , i guess it can go weither way, i do like the fact that you use a base under to give the illusion of a bigger crown.

    #503482

    Clev08
    Pro

    At the risk of complete derailing this thread…I’m going to ask anyway. Isn’t your crown “upside down”? I realize it Can be installed either way, but I typically install it with the smaller cove at the top.

    Also, I’m really jealous that you get to install something so big. What is the room like that this will be going into?

    Oh no your not one of those people that think the smaller cove should be at the top. That way is upside down and it drives me nuts hen people put it like that lol. The room is a big great room in a 15 story pent house apartment. There are a couple balconies in that room a big fire place ope kitchen. I want to say the room is like 90×60 foot somewhere around that but its big.

    I see it both ways, but I guess my eyes prefer it opposite from the way you do it! Crown that big is going to look great either way. 60×90…wow. What does a large profile crown like that sell for?

    I am actually with Jon on this one , just because the more detailed area is closer to the ceiling , thats ceilings uasually painted mat white , but mind you now adays they paint them so many diff colors , i guess it can go weither way, i do like the fact that you use a base under to give the illusion of a bigger crown.

    I really like the look of the base + crown. How many seams will you have on the 90 ft walls? That just seems crazy long for one wall but it is a penthouse…

    #503497

    jkirk
    Moderator
    halifax, nova scotia

    the large ogee or cove whichever always goes up its al about proper proportions

    heres a tip, dont fart in a space suit

    #503573

    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    A couple million at least for the place and they are putting another couple million into it, the pent house used to belong to reds hall of famer Barry Larkin

    But what about the crown itself…what does that sell for? I’ve never had the pleasure of purchasing such a big profile.

    BTW, I’m about 2 hours from Cincy…my little brother is a huge Reds fan. He would die to visit Barry Larkin’s old house…we grew up watching him. They just don’t make them like Barry any more! Class act for sure.

    Jon P.
    Timber Carpentry & Construction
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    #503578

    Austin
    Pro
    Covington, KY

    At the risk of complete derailing this thread…I’m going to ask anyway. Isn’t your crown “upside down”? I realize it Can be installed either way, but I typically install it with the smaller cove at the top.

    Also, I’m really jealous that you get to install something so big. What is the room like that this will be going into?

    Oh no your not one of those people that think the smaller cove should be at the top. That way is upside down and it drives me nuts hen people put it like that lol. The room is a big great room in a 15 story pent house apartment. There are a couple balconies in that room a big fire place ope kitchen. I want to say the room is like 90×60 foot somewhere around that but its big.

    I see it both ways, but I guess my eyes prefer it opposite from the way you do it! Crown that big is going to look great either way. 60×90…wow. What does a large profile crown like that sell for?

    I am actually with Jon on this one , just because the more detailed area is closer to the ceiling , thats ceilings uasually painted mat white , but mind you now adays they paint them so many diff colors , i guess it can go weither way, i do like the fact that you use a base under to give the illusion of a bigger crown.

    I really like the look of the base + crown. How many seams will you have on the 90 ft walls? That just seems crazy long for one wall but it is a penthouse…

    Not to many scarf joint seems, there are some bump outs and soufets that break it up so the longest strait run is like 25 foot, so there should only be one break in it.

    A couple million at least for the place and they are putting another couple million into it, the pent house used to belong to reds hall of famer Barry Larkin

    But what about the crown itself…what does that sell for? I’ve never had the pleasure of purchasing such a big profile.

    BTW, I’m about 2 hours from Cincy…my little brother is a huge Reds fan. He would die to visit Barry Larkin’s old house…we grew up watching him. They just don’t make them like Barry any more! Class act for sure.

    Oh the crown its self, I am not sure I am not involved in that aspect of the job, I am just paid to put up what they give me ha. And yeah I couldnt agree more he was a top notch player.

    #506290

    Clev08
    Pro

    First video I have seen of the Fuel nailers. Can’t wait to get my hands on one!

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