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Hardwood Floors: Cleat nails or staples?

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    When installing hardwood flooring if your going to use a mechanical fastener to hold the floor down you have two choices: cleat nails or staples.The question I often get asked is whats the difference? and What’s the best quality?

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    ~ Rob at http://www.ConcordCarpenter.com

    #11928

    Anonymous

    What do you prefer? I’ve only done the floating flooring

    #11989

    I prefer cleat nails but my current nailer is a staple nailer.

    ~ Rob at http://www.ConcordCarpenter.com

    #11991

    parenos
    Moderator
    Honesdale, PA

    I started using cleats, but the last two floors used staples, I just get the feeling that the staples hold better, not that there has ever been a problem with cleats. I think both are great as long as install correctly, that the biggest issue I see is people not putting enough fasteners into the floor.

    #19538

    I’ve used the staples. But good to a different
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    #22830

    I’ve found cleats hold better in lumber i.e pine subfloors.
    But they are not recommended for plywood or OSB subfloors.
    I have a nailer that can use both and mostly go with staples.

    #29160

    kurt@welkerhomes.com
    Pro
    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    Typically staples. Seems to be faster and hane never had a problem with the hold

    #37743

    jkirk
    Moderator
    halifax, nova scotia

    i rarely lay hardwood but when i have its always been staples, all the hardwood guys hire use staples also

    heres a tip, dont fart in a space suit

    #37758

    redwood
    Pro

    I also use staples for the few times that I lay hardwood floors.

    Mark E.

    Pioneer, CA

    Working Pro 1972 - 2015
    Member since Jan 22, 2013
    www.creative-redwood-designs.com

    #37875

    kurt@welkerhomes.com
    Pro
    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    We typically use staples

    #38040

    kzcarp
    Pro

    I use staples also. I don’t feel like the cleat nails hold as well in old board subfloors, and have had some repairs where the cleat has split tongues. Less tendency for a staple to do that.

    kevin

    #38046

    kurt@welkerhomes.com
    Pro
    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    I would agree Kevin t, that the Staples with the tongue a lot less than the cleats

    #60377

    Calidecks64
    Pro
    Anaheim Hills, Cali

    I used cleat nails on this floor, came out good.

    #60436

    Both of them seem to work equally well for us. We’ve used nailers in the past that but our current gear is mostly staplers, which hold fine – no warranty issues so far.

    #60657

    mattryyc
    Pro
    Calgary, Alberta

    This past week we installed 480 sq ft of hard maple. I’d estimate roughly half of that work was removing the old underlayment – particle board under vinyl that was PL’d and stapled down to the OSB subfloor. After pulling staples on my knees for two straight days and demo’ing with a Bosch Bulldog with a tile blade I could tell you that staples hold better. My nailer is a 3-in-1 Freeman that will shoot either, so I went with the staples.

    #67764

    MRenes
    Pro
    Vienna, Missouri

    Staples is what I used the one time I did it

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