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Exterior wall fail!!!

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    Miamicuse
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    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    So this is a building in south florida. Exterior walls concrete block stucco.

    Next lot over they are doing demolition. Tearing down the whole building and regrading.

    Half way through the demolition, this building wall collapsed. The entire wall failed and came apart and you can actually see the interior living space!

    #695007

    TopNotch
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    elmwood park, NJ

    Wow how does something like that happen.
    I know you guys do shallow foundations in Florida but I can’t see the sand transferring vibration enough to jar the earth.

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    Tom M

    #695016

    kurt@welkerhomes.com
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    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    From the photo’s it appears that the wall is unreinforced. Not something I would expect to see in a hurricane prone area. We would not build unreinforced masonry walls like that in our area.

    #695019

    TopNotch
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    elmwood park, NJ

    Unless salts killed the rebar, under sized perhaps #4

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    Tom M

    #695020

    Miamicuse
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    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    The building is almost 100 years old, it was originally constructed in 1924.

    Next door was excavating very close to that wall. They actually broke water pipes prior to the collapse but fixed it.

    Building across the street on the other side said they can feel the vibration when the excavation was going on.

    City condemned the building.

    #695024

    DirtyWhiteBoy
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    Honolulu,, Hi.

    Yup a little rebar and grout go a long way.. It was built before there were any codes. It was ready to go anyway. The infrastructure was shot anyway.

    Dirty

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    #695044

    madman_us
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    Palm Springs, CA

    ready to tear that building down. maybe more walls will come down

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    #695047

    kurt@welkerhomes.com
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    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    Yes lack of codes and sound building practices almost a hundred years ago resulted in that failure. I am always amazed how some buildings of that era are built so sound and weather the tests of time so fail miserably at it. It seems that then, like today, some builders gave a crap and actually built to last while others worried more about fast and cheap.

    #695061

    theamcguy
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    Fayetteville, NC

    From the photo’s it appears that the wall is unreinforced

    Looks like typical Latin America wall construction. Very poor brickwork covered with stucco and little to no rebar to support it.

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    Fayetteville, NC

    #695072

    Doobie
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    Ajax, ON

    Next door was excavating very close to that wall. They actually broke water pipes prior to the collapse but fixed it.

    That might be the catalyst for the failure in that the water leak washed away too much sand/dirt near it and led to its support being compromised and ultimate collapsing failure.

    Kevin.

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    #695076

    Miamicuse
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    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    Meanwhile the city has closed off two lanes of US1 which passes in front of the building.

    Now the DOT, city, owner, insurance and next door owner are involved in a legal mess while the road is half closed. I am sure they are looking for someone to ultimately blame.

    The owner still wants to “shore up the wall” and has submitted a permit application.

    From a local news feed:

    “Just days before, tenants say they kept hearing a thunderous drilling noise that made the walls shake.

    “It felt like the walls were going to come down,” said Jennifer LeClaire, a pastor who had rented space in the building for more than two years.

    #695077

    Miamicuse
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    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    Broward County fire rescue concluded it is the trenching digging for the next door hotel that caused the wall to collapse.

    I bet a forensic structural engineer will be called in to do a $150k report though.

    #695104

    DirtyWhiteBoy
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    Honolulu,, Hi.

    Looks like typical Latin America wall construction.

    I think this was built long before the Hispanics came in Florida. Maybe redneck building lol..

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    Member since January 26, 2013.

    #695165

    madman_us
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    Palm Springs, CA

    “It felt like the walls were going to come down,” said Jennifer LeClaire, a pastor who had rented space in the building for more than two years.

    time to pack your sh’$ and leave

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    #695169

    smallerstick
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    Listowel, ON

    “It felt like the walls were going to come down,” said Jennifer LeClaire, a pastor who had rented space in the building for more than two years.

    time to pack your sh’$ and leave

    You got that right. When stuff starts falling down around you, it’s not a difficult decision to make.

    It is better to remain silent and be thought stupid than to open your mouth and remove all traces of doubt.

    #695182

    theamcguy
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    Fayetteville, NC

    I bet a forensic structural engineer will be called in to do a $150k report though.

    Probably right, somebody will also probably get sued in the end.

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    Fayetteville, NC

    #695197

    kurt@welkerhomes.com
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    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    they must have been digging fairly close to the wall or fairly deep for that to happen.

    #695211

    Still scary to have happen.

    Will

    #695220

    Miamicuse
    Pro
    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    They said there is a bathroom right there, imagine mid way through a shower and the wall fell out two feet?

    #695237

    Boschmanbrian
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    Montreal , QC, Canada

    The building is almost 100 years old, it was originally constructed in 1924.

    Next door was excavating very close to that wall. They actually broke water pipes prior to the collapse but fixed it.

    Building across the street on the other side said they can feel the vibration when the excavation was going on.

    City condemned the building.

    I guess like some other members here mentioned, built before code,
    I’m not sure, but I think now they have codes to put some sort of protective coatings on the rebar?
    Maybe kurt@welkerhomes.com and DirtyWhiteBoy might be able to add to the rebar coating?

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