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Dust control on a router table

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  • #154663
    thedude306
    Moderator
    Foam Lake, SK

    I was routing some dados with my router on the bosch 4100-09 and man was there a lot of dust that got shot down the rabbit and made a huge mess. Is there any way to prevent or minimize this? I had a virtual zero clearance insert in so I don’t think under table DC would help.

    Brad T
    Self employed Pro since 2014!!

    #154668
    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    Depending on your set up, you might benefit from something like this. Mine came from Rockler as a set( top, fence and DC port. )

    As a side note, I’ve found that my router(Triton TRA001) drops a fair around of dust below regardless of the bit or insert. It may be worth setting something up to collect chips and dust from the top and bottom.

    Jon P.
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    #154671
    mattryyc
    Pro
    Calgary, Alberta

    My old craftsman has above the table collection and it’s pretty much useless. I think the only way to go is to basically enclose the router under the table with your lift and create a vacuum. For dados it should be dust and not big shavings so you should be able to get it sucked through – it shouldn’t take much clearance to get it out of there, but you could try going up a size if it’s still not working.

    Rockler sells a box for it, but I think you could make it up just as easily and seal it.

    #154674
    thedude306
    Moderator
    Foam Lake, SK

    I have above table, it works ok for things like round overs, or small edge work. I said rabbits but I meant dados.

    I guess I have to figure out something for under the saw…

    Brad T
    Self employed Pro since 2014!!

    #154687
    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    Rockler sells a box for it, but I think you could make it up just as easily and seal it.

    I made my own…still some tweaking necessary, but you get the idea.

    Jon P.
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    #154693
    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    This set up requires more suction than my Ridgid 6.5 hp vac can provide. Most of the pull is from below with very little suction happening above at this point. I’m hoping a legitimate dust collector will help with this.

    That being said. The box itself helps tremendously. Simply by containing the dust, everything stays cleaner…hopefully more suction will eliminate the cloud of dust that happens when I cut moldings, etc.

    Jon P.
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    #154702
    svensshutters
    Pro
    Colorado Springs, CO

    I have above table, it works ok for things like round overs, or small edge work. I said rabbits but I meant dados.

    I guess I have to figure out something for under the saw…

    If you get rid of the zero clearance it should pick up the dust better.

    Edit: I typed this first before realizing that Brad was talking about cutting dado’s with a table saw.

    How about getting the dust collection kit:
    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=RA1177AT

    And using the deluxe router guide?
    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=RA1054&WT.ac=RPC_RA1054

    http://mdm.boschwebservices.com/files/r20528v33.png

    #154707
    kurt@welkerhomes.com
    Moderator
    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    I don’t think you will ever stop the dust from shooting down the dado. I think you can only minimize it with more suction on the back side of the fence. I find that if a filter gets dirty, the suction goes to heck and the dust collection goes out the window.

    Did you ever get your Dust Deputy set up @thedude306. I set one up on a 20 gallon garbage can and it really extends the time between cleaning filters on my shop vac.

    #154711
    svensshutters
    Pro
    Colorado Springs, CO

    Disregard my confusion in my last post. I don’t know what I’m talking about, with saws routers, etc. I think the pics I posted would help you.

    #154715

    Our table has the dust port on the back of the fence and I hook it into our shop dust collector. Then I use the Bosch dust collector shroud and use a shop vac or our midi hooked to it. It cuts down a ton of the dust!

    Andrew

    A Working Pro since 1995!

    Member since March 26, 2014.

    #155233

    I don’t have much to add other than that perhaps the Incra Wonderfence might help a small amount since it is similar to the other fence dust collection setups shown…

    John S

    #155315

    To be effective you need to have above and below the table collection. I have my big Felder hooked up for under the table collection, which is overkill, but it sucks everything up that falls in the cabinet. I also have DC on the fence. This set-up captures the bulk of the dust. However, nothing it perfect and there will always be some chips and dust that is not collected. I choke the fences up and try to get them as close to zero-tolerance as possible too for the best quality of cut and also safer.

    For most dadoes I use a handheld router and fence or track and the DC works pretty well in this application too, although some chips get stuck in the groove and require another quick pass with the router to capture most of them.

    Orange County, CA

    #155327
    thedude306
    Moderator
    Foam Lake, SK

    I don’t think the incra will help. I have the dust deputy hooked up and it is a great piece of kit.

    I guess it looks like I need to go under table and get a bigger dust collector over my shop vac (that I plan to do)

    Brad T
    Self employed Pro since 2014!!

    #155339

    I don’t think the incra will help. I have the dust deputy hooked up and it is a great piece of kit.

    I guess it looks like I need to go under table and get a bigger dust collector over my shop vac (that I plan to do)

    Yep — CFM is your friend here and a large trunk line — I have 6 inches in mine, but 5 inches or 120 MM would work well too.

    Orange County, CA

    #157184
    thedude306
    Moderator
    Foam Lake, SK

    I think I am going to use my above table set up with the edge guide. I did a piece today on a 2×12 and it was much easier then running across the table.

    And a 1000+ cfm dust collector is in the works

    Brad T
    Self employed Pro since 2014!!

    #157232

    @thedude306, how does this look to you?

    http://www.infinitytools.com/Router-Table-Dust-Collector/productinfo/115-115/

    Dust from the bottom of the router table is something I have yet to handle well. I have been looking at the system above but have not yet ordered it.

    #157255
    Thatkid
    Pro

    I have above table, it works ok for things like round overs, or small edge work. I said rabbits but I meant dados.

    I guess I have to figure out something for under the saw…

    If you get rid of the zero clearance it should pick up the dust better.

    Edit: I typed this first before realizing that Brad was talking about cutting dado’s with a table saw.

    How about getting the dust collection kit:

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=RA1177AT

    And using the deluxe router guide?

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=RA1054&WT.ac=RPC_RA1054

    http://mdm.boschwebservices.com/files/r20528v33.png

    That dust collection kit looks sweet.

    #157525
    thedude306
    Moderator
    Foam Lake, SK

    @PI_Woodworker that looks pretty good. Unfortunately I don’t think my shop vac has enough suck.

    Brad T
    Self employed Pro since 2014!!

    #157546
    mattryyc
    Pro
    Calgary, Alberta

    Sorry I derailed your thread – totally didn’t translate 4100 to table saw, doh! I have to say though that on my GTS1300 I don’t find it that bad, but it has everything fully enclosed under it so maybe that helps.

    #157587
    DirtyWhiteBoy
    Pro
    Honolulu,, Hi.

    Disregard my confusion in my last post. I don’t know what I’m talking about

    See and I haven’t even show up yet

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