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Do you ever use the "golden ratio" when building or designing your projects?

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    smallerstick
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    North Bay, ON

    All I did was use a label machine and printed out “Golden Ratio 1:1.618”. I just stuck it on a cabinet above my workbench.

    That’s such a good idea. It works for so many calculations in the shop every day. I know I need to be more mindful about using it.

    Aston Martin uses the golden ratio extensively in the design of their cars. This is probably why I have always thought they look so balanced and beautifully proportioned.

    I didn’t know that and yes it’s a good example of how well the ratio works.

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    #667830

    1:1.6 is the ratio rounded. I used to make speaker enclosures and that was the first time I read about it (many moons ago). For the design of the enclosure you would take the width, multiply that by 1.6 for the height, and multiply the width by .6 for the depth. You would figure out the volume of the box and check that against the recommended volume for the cones and you would have a good sounding set of speakers (depending on the quality of the cones of course).

    Yup

    The Golden ratio is a special number found by dividing a line into two parts so that the longer part divided by the smaller part is also equal to the whole length divided by the longer part.

    #667835
    jkirk
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    halifax, nova scotia

    i try to whenever possible.. its always best to keep the elements of design balanced and proportioned.. but with so many modern designers out there drawing things up where they dont take it into consideration its hard to

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    #667836
    brianpeters
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    Murray, KY

    As a young child I learned the “golden rule”, but I never learned about the “golden ratio”. Gonna have to do some studying on it, not sure if my weak mind is up to the task though!

    #667848

    You can also buy, or build, dividers with the ratio built in.

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    #694758
    Miamicuse
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    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    Not quite the golden ratio but there was a time I spent a few years working as a design engineer that provides highway design services to clients like the Florida Department of Transportation and the Florida Turnpike Authority.

    We regularly employ spirals into the geometry for roadway design and railway design. It’s required in many states for high speed roadways.

    You see, when you drive in a straight line, and suddenly there is a curve ahead of you bending to the right, we do not design a straight line then a circular arc. It would be too “sudden” for a driver to be driving a straight line one second and the next is a 1000′ radius arc.

    So what we do is we fit in a horizontal spiral (technically it is a clothoid, or “Euler” spiral) it is a curve that will gradually go from infinite radius (straight line) to a finite radius meeting the arc. There is a transition spiral on each end of a circular arc.

    This is especially important for rail design, as the rail cars going through a bend has to transition from a straight line to an arc gradually within the rails. For highways it is not as critical especially for small cars where the lane is wide enough to steer the transition within the lane width.

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    smallerstick
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    North Bay, ON

    So what we do is we fit in a horizontal spiral (technically it is a clothoid, or “Euler” spiral) it is a curve that will gradually go from infinite radius (straight line) to a finite radius meeting the arc. There is a transition spiral on each end of a circular arc.

    That would be a really good element to use in furniture design. Thanks for sharing.

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    #733592

    Great subject! Yes, as a kitchen designer & also artist, I often use the balance of the golden ratio & other geometry formulas when spacing out the spaces & items within. I start with getting the functional elements in place for good work flow & then go into balancing the design further within. My clients’ feedback is the space feels balanced as a whole & the work flow is enjoyable. I usually do not go into all the details with clients on how I got there & how I used the geometry in the design, unless asked. A lot of people could care less about geometry as a conversation, but a great design has it all over 😉 Sacred Geometry is a common term used for nature’s geometry. I am fascinated on this subject. Nice to find someone else who is as well.

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    #733600
    smallerstick
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    North Bay, ON

    Great subject! Yes, as a kitchen designer & also artist, I often use the balance of the golden ratio & other geometry formulas when spacing out the spaces & items within. I start with getting the functional elements in place for good work flow & then go into balancing the design further within. My clients’ feedback is the space feels balanced as a whole & the work flow is enjoyable. I usually do not go into all the details with clients on how I got there & how I used the geometry in the design, unless asked. A lot of people could care less about geometry as a conversation, but a great design has it all over 😉 Sacred Geometry is a common term used for nature’s geometry. I am fascinated on this subject. Nice to find someone else who is as well.

    https://www.crystalinks.com/sg.html
    https://www.geometrycode.com/sacred-geometry/

    First of all, welcome to BTP Sharon. I too, am interested in the applications of the Golden Ratio and the Fibonacci sequence in designing furniture. I am hoping you will share some of your design successes with us – we love pictures – so that we can learn from your experience.

    Drop by the “introduce yourself” thread and give us a glimpse of who you are.

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    #733608

    Boy just went back and read through this thread
    I shouldn’t have done that
    Now I really feel stupid 🤔☺️🤷
    I’ll have to check out some of the recommendations
    Sounds extremely interesting to say the least. Peter I may send you a pm to pick your brain more about this topic and book.

    #733609
    Sorpa
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    Pierrefonds, Qc

    Boy just went back and read through this thread
    I shouldn’t have done that
    Now I really feel stupid 🤔☺️🤷
    I’ll have to check out some of the recommendations
    Sounds extremely interesting to say the least. Peter I may send you a pm to pick your brain more about this topic and book.

    Why you shouldn’t have done it? What went wrong?

    #733645
    smallerstick
    Pro
    North Bay, ON

    Boy just went back and read through this thread
    I shouldn’t have done that
    Now I really feel stupid 🤔☺️🤷
    I’ll have to check out some of the recommendations
    Sounds extremely interesting to say the least. Peter I may send you a pm to pick your brain more about this topic and book.

    Sure thing, I can suggest you read a bit by Jim Tolpin—— Measure twice cut once, By Hand and Eye come to mind as good places to start.

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    #733647

    Boy just went back and read through this thread
    I shouldn’t have done that
    Now I really feel stupid 🤔☺️🤷
    I’ll have to check out some of the recommendations
    Sounds extremely interesting to say the least. Peter I may send you a pm to pick your brain more about this topic and book.

    Sure thing, I can suggest you read a bit by Jim Tolpin—— Measure twice cut once, By Hand and Eye come to mind as good places to start.

    Thank you Peter , saved it for later 🙏👍

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