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Bosch 11264EVS Rotary Hammer – Q’s on usage and accesories.

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  • #348372
    Doobie
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    I recently redeemed for the following Bosch 11264 SDS-MAX 1 5/8 Rotary Hammer. While I’ve rented such tools before for drilling holes in concrete, I never realized what else it could be used for until I started participating on this forum. Truly way more versatile than what I knew.

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=11264EVSy

    But I do have some questions about what accessories to get for it and how practical they are and also about general tool usage and care. Hoping the pros here can assist with this.

    First, it came with a small tube of lube. The lube from what I understand is for lubricating the bits/accesories in the chuck, but how much do you apply and how often?

    I was at my Home Depot rentals department buying some of the SDS-Max bits and accessories they carry, and had asked them. The fellow I spoke to said ‘you don’t need much and you insert it directly inside the opening in the chuck’. Is this correct? I’m imagining what he means by not much is like a pinky tip worth’s of lube or the equivalent amount of a small marble or so.

    I also asked him whether they sell the lube for it. He said they didn’t and although he’s gonna try to pry an extra tube of the larger ones they get directly from their Bosch rep the next time he is in for me, he has no idea what alternatives I could use and/or where to get the Bosch lube as a sell-able item.

    While I do expect to get a fair amount of use out of it, I know it may sit there for long periods of time not being used at all. One of my concerns are the comments written by someone responding to another persons complaint about his unit not working properly on Amazon in that these kinds of tools need to be stored nose down when not in use for prolonged periods. Anybody ever hear of this?

    Here’s the cut and paste of the comments I read in this regard along with the link to it on Amazon …

    “These type of electric hammer tools have a piston in them that requires normal usage but more importantly proper storage when not being used. The nose of the tool needs to be pointing downwards during storage or the piston will seize within the cylinder after long periods of storage causing a vacuum seal. You can pull the casing apart and heat the cylinder with a torch to loosen the grease and unseize the piston. That would explain why it is still drilling but not hammering.”

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1HIG17OOFYUPM/ref=cm_cr_pr_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B0020ML69K

    Now on to accessories questions and their practical uses.

    HS1921 – Slotting Tool.

    How practical is this for removing mortar in between bricks. The previous homeowner had plugged up the weeper holes at the bottom of my exterior house brick cladding. I’m long overdue to correct this. I believe I have clay bricks.

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/BoschAccessoryDetail.aspx?pid=HS1921#specs

    HS1927 – Round Spade VS HS1922 – Clay Spade

    Speaking of clay, but of a different kind, I’ve got tons of clay in the soil where I live and I need to dig up a bunch of where I cannot get other larger machines to. Some areas I need to remove up to 8-10 inches of packed down clay and was hoping this tool could help make that a lot easier. Thing is, I’m not sure which one of these two accessories would be best for that. I can’t even really tell how big one of them is versus the other. Any recommendations on either of them?

    I also imagine I may want to save my back, or simply use the hammer for when digging pier holes which in my area require going down 4 feet. I was thinking for this that maybe getting bit extensions may be a good idea. Or is that ill advised for such an application and extensions are really meant solely for adding depth to hole drilling situations into concrete?

    I know I’ve seen them, but I can’t even find them online now. I think the Bosch extension was 12 inches??? The catalogue does not have it.

    EDIT # 4: I just finished registering my tool on the the Bosch site and lo and behold it brought up this link as part of the suggestions for accessories to get for the aforementioned extension bits I couldn’t find earlier when I wrote this.

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/BoschProductListCategory.aspx?catId=1099&subCatId=1734

    Funny thing is, it does not show me any retailer that carries them other than amazon.ca showing that they are out of stock. Has this been discontinued?

    END EDIT # 4.

    I may also have the odd tree root to cut/remove. Can this tool be used for that and which attachment should I use or which one should I stay away from is maybe another question?

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/BoschAccessoryDetail.aspx?pid=HS1926#specs

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/BoschAccessoryDetail.aspx?pid=HS1922#specs

    HS1969 & HS1909 – Bushing Tool

    What is this bushing tool for? Tenderizing meat! lol!

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/BoschAccessoryDetail.aspx?pid=HS1969#specs

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/BoschAccessoryDetail.aspx?pid=HS1909#specs

    HS1929 Gouging Tool, HS 1920 Seam Tool, & HS1928 Channel Slotting tool.

    Where are these used? No idea! Especially the HS1928 Channel Slotting tool.

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/BoschAccessoryDetail.aspx?pid=HS1929#specs

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/BoschAccessoryDetail.aspx?pid=HS1920#specs

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/BoschAccessoryDetail.aspx?pid=HS1928#specs

    HS1924 – Ground Rod Driver

    Forgive me, but I am somewhat lost as to where one needs to drive rods into the ground. Some idea of where that is commonly needed is maybe what I am really asking.

    Also, is this for rebar to be ground driven, or some other kind of rod into the ground.

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/BoschAccessoryDetail.aspx?pid=HS1924#specs

    HS1927 & HS1828 – 5″ X 5″ Tamper Plate and Shank.

    I did get some earlier feedback on this in another thread that the scope of this accessory is for use in limited areas. Has anybody used them, and what did you think of having it? Waste of money/points?

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/BoschAccessoryDetail.aspx?pid=HS1927#specs

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/BoschAccessoryDetail.aspx?pid=HS1828#specs

    And what about an adapter for using SDS-PLus bits and accessories. I can’t find that on the Bosch website but they do have one on page 22 of their most recent catalog (HA1030). Is it not a good idea or something not to use SDS-Plus bits and accessories in a more heavy duty capable hammer meant for SDS-Max bits?

    EDIT # 3: I did find the HS1030 SDS-Max to SDS-Plus adapter on Amazon.ca just now.

    http://www.amazon.ca/Bosch-HA1030-SDS-Max-Adapter/dp/B0009H5P4K/ref=pd_cp_60_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=002JXPS51BEVE4HBA1DV

    END EDIT # 3.

    I notice that there are SDS-Plus Rebar cutters, but none for the SDS-Max. That seems odd? I assume thiese cutters are for dealing with cutting embedded rebar only.

    http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Accessories/Pages/BoschAccessoryDetail.aspx?pid=RC2104#specs

    Lastly, they have two types of core drilling bits. One piece bits, and two piece bits. How durable are the two piece style? Should I shy away from them?

    As I mentioned earlier, I did get started on my bit and accessory needs with a trip to HD last nite. This is what I got.

    And thanks in advance for all and any help coming forward!

    #348390
    Doobie
    Moderator

    I did get a reply in another thread about the lube issue. The problem is it is not a Canadian retailer.

    Just tried a Google and an Amazon.ca search for it, and I’ve got nothing.

    Today, when I asked if they sell the Bosch lube for my roto hammer I just got and was there buying bits for, the guy told me they don’t but he’s gonna ask the Bosch rep for a nice big fat extra tube next time he’s in and will hold it for me.

    For those that can’t find the lube for your rotary drill, you can order it here:

    http://www.ereplacementparts.com/grease-tube-p-53860.html

    Bosch recommends that you place a dab on the top of the bit before putting it in the chuck.

    Sorry about the double post. I expect this in an exception to the rule.

    #348400
    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    First, it came with a small tube of lube. The lube from what I understand is for lubricating the bits/accesories in the chuck, but how much do you apply and how often?

    I just fill a couple grooves on the bit shank and insert the bit. Any excess quickly works its way out…once per usage unless you are doing a lot on continuous use.

    stored nose down when not in use for prolonged periods. Anybody ever hear of this?

    Uh, nope. Mine lies flat on its side in its case.

    HS1921 – Slotting Tool.

    Not something I’d use personally. You’d have much more control with a grinder. Perhaps @Utopia78 can help with this one.

    HS1927 – Round Spade VS HS1922 – Clay Spade

    The first model would get you flatter hole bottom..not sure why you’d want the other version. I’ve never seen it in fact.

    HS1929 Gouging Tool, HS 1920 Seam Tool, & HS1928 Channel Slotting tool.

    No idea. Sorry.

    HS1924 – Ground Rod Driver

    This one is typically used for driving copper ground rods into the earth for an electrical panel. Probably could be used for rebar as well…or tent stakes??

    HS1927 & HS1828 – 5″ X 5″ Tamper Plate and Shank.

    For settling soil or rock I would assume. I doubt you could reach to the bottom of a post hole with this though. Probably better off using a manual tamper in this case.

    And what about an adapter for using SDS-PLus bits and accessories.

    You’d probably ruin many SDS plus bits in a big Max hammer. Most Plus accessories have thinner shanks due to the relatively lower power. They aren’t meant to go into the big boy. Additionally, you can likely buy the same accessories for the SDS Max anyway. Drill bits won’t be available under 1/2″ or so though.

    I notice that there are SDS-Plus Rebar cutters, but none for the SDS-Max. That seems odd? I assume thiese cutters are for dealing with cutting embedded rebar only.

    Likely another good one for Utopia78.

    Lastly, they have two types of core drilling bits. One piece bits, and two piece bits. How durable are the two piece style? Should I shy away from them?

    I’ve had no issues using a single piece core bit. I’ve never used the two piece though…

    I see you’ve got a nice assortment of chisels! Those should do well for a long time! When you need to sharpen them, go slow and try not to overheat the metal, doing so makes it lose strength.

    Jon P.
    Timber Carpentry & Construction
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    #348406
    utopia78
    Pro
    Toronto, ON

    You should be able to bust up a few hundred brick with that also if you need to.

    A Working Pro since 2004

    #348443
    utopia78
    Pro
    Toronto, ON

    So this is actually considered a Demo/Rotary hammer. I bet this could tackle some smaller slab.

    A Working Pro since 2004

    #348475
    r-ice
    Pro
    Durham region, ON

    After watching @utopia78 ‘s video I think I want a rotary demo hammer instead of just a demo hammer. I am definitely interested in seeing if this can take out that old stump in my backyard.

    #348480
    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    I am definitely interested in seeing if this can take out that old stump in my backyard.

    Are you planning on slicing roots with it…or?

    Jon P.
    Timber Carpentry & Construction
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    #348484
    r-ice
    Pro
    Durham region, ON

    I am definitely interested in seeing if this can take out that old stump in my backyard.

    Are you planning on slicing roots with it…or?

    was thinking of hammering/chipping away at the trunk. sorry meant trunk lol roots i’d use a sawzall. The tree has been down a number of years but the tree stump is taking forever to rot away. So I thought i’d speed up the process and help me dig in the clay like dirt we have here.

    #348491
    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    I am definitely interested in seeing if this can take out that old stump in my backyard.

    Are you planning on slicing roots with it…or?

    was thinking of hammering/chipping away at the trunk. sorry meant trunk lol roots i’d use a sawzall. The tree has been down a number of years but the tree stump is taking forever to rot away. So I thought i’d speed up the process and help me dig in the clay like dirt we have here.

    Depending upon how rotten the remaining stump is, you might be able to use the SDS Max to peel it apart. I’d probably use a chainsaw and just plan on replacing the chain afterwards.

    Jon P.
    Timber Carpentry & Construction
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    #348669
    theamcguy
    Pro
    Fayetteville, NC

    was thinking of hammering/chipping away at the trunk. sorry meant trunk lol roots i’d use a sawzall. The tree has been down a number of years but the tree stump is taking forever to rot away. So I thought i’d speed up the process and help me dig in the clay like dirt we have here.

    I had a trunk like that. I took a chainsaw and cut it down as close to the ground as possible. Then I took a big 2″ wood boring bit and drilled a bunch of holes in it. Then I took a big bar and a hammer and chipped out the excess between the holes. I mean I really swiss cheesed that stump and got it below ground level. After that I drilled some more holes and filed them with salt to help rot the remaining stump and covered it with dirt. Then I put sod over that.

    Automotive Pro
    Fayetteville, NC

    #348723
    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    After that I drilled some more holes and filed them with salt to help rot the remaining stump and covered it with dirt. Then I put sod over that.

    Did the salt help?

    I was always under the impression that salt would prevent things from growing.

    Jon P.
    Timber Carpentry & Construction
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    #348880
    svensshutters
    Pro
    Colorado Springs, CO

    I’m going to follow this thread, I see I can learn alot about the different bits available, but right now I can’t be of much help. So the reason for my post is simple. The tree stump. I know that there are some chemical stump removers that can be picked up at local big box stores. Don’t know much about them though. May be something to look into as well.

    #348884
    theamcguy
    Pro
    Fayetteville, NC

    Did the salt help?

    I was always under the impression that salt would prevent things from growing.

    Salt helped the wood to rot faster, the sod was placed on top and did not seem to be affected by the salt.

    Automotive Pro
    Fayetteville, NC

    #349173
    Doobie
    Moderator

    So this is actually considered a Demo/Rotary hammer. I bet this could tackle some smaller slab.

    That’s a pretty good video showing some of the tool’s general functionality. Thanks for posting it Chris, I’d never seen it before.

    #349194
    r-ice
    Pro
    Durham region, ON

    I am definitely interested in seeing if this can take out that old stump in my backyard.

    Are you planning on slicing roots with it…or?

    was thinking of hammering/chipping away at the trunk. sorry meant trunk lol roots i’d use a sawzall. The tree has been down a number of years but the tree stump is taking forever to rot away. So I thought i’d speed up the process and help me dig in the clay like dirt we have here.

    Depending upon how rotten the remaining stump is, you might be able to use the SDS Max to peel it apart. I’d probably use a chainsaw and just plan on replacing the chain afterwards.

    can i quote you to my wife ? im gonna tell her you said I could buy a chain saw lol.. i tried looking for the liquid to rot it away and haven’t found it available in canada.

    #349201
    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    can i quote you to my wife ? im gonna tell her you said I could buy a chain saw lol.. i tried looking for the liquid to rot it away and haven’t found it available in canada.

    Sure, why the heck not. I wouldn’t be too confident in those liquid decomposition methods. I’ve had success hacking the stumps below ground level and backfilling.

    Jon P.
    Timber Carpentry & Construction
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    #349207
    Doobie
    Moderator

    can i quote you to my wife ? im gonna tell her you said I could buy a chain saw lol.. i tried looking for the liquid to rot it away and haven’t found it available in canada.

    You shouldn’t use a chain saw to cut roots if that’s what you’re thinking.

    In fact, the minute the chain picks up dirt, it dulls it real fast. I don’t even like to cut near the base of a tree as the bark down there often is riddled with dirt sometimes.

    Is it one tree you have in mind to get rid of?

    Sometimes with smaller trees it is more effective to leave the last 3-4 feet of trunk and winch it out. I did one like that last year using my neighbors hand ratcheting winch. Just tied myself off to other trees or solid objects nearby and slowly worked the whole main root ball out in one piece wrenching it in different directions over time. The trunk I pulled out was about 6 in in diameter and was a cedar.

    #350538
    Doobie
    Moderator

    Called up Bosch customer service to get a few answers to some of my earlier questions I posted. Most of them got answered, but I had to cut the call short due to someone knocking on my door who i needed to deal with. Will finish up with them hopefully tomorrow and post what I was told.

    #350546
    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    can i quote you to my wife ? im gonna tell her you said I could buy a chain saw lol.. i tried looking for the liquid to rot it away and haven’t found it available in canada.

    You shouldn’t use a chain saw to cut roots if that’s what you’re thinking.

    In fact, the minute the chain picks up dirt, it dulls it real fast. I don’t even like to cut near the base of a tree as the bark down there often is riddled with dirt sometimes.

    I suggested the chainsaw as a method to cut away the stump itself. Of course there will be contact with the soil, which which is why the chain will definitely need to be replaced. I’d use a reciprocating saw on the roots after digging a bit to expose them.

    None of this is perfect, but it’s the best most of us can do short of owning a tractor to pull the stump out.

    Jon P.
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    #350584
    Doobie
    Moderator

    None of this is perfect, but it’s the best most of us can do short of owning a tractor to pull the stump out.

    My eighty year old neighbour likes to pour gasoline and light afire things he wants to get rid of. Does this with lawn and old tree roots. I just always figured living in a suburb that one shouldn’t do such things for a variety of reasons.

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