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  • #159239
    Sprokitz
    Pro
    Eastern shore of, Pa

    This one did a complete flip landing upside down. Our TV news had better pics… only a handful of nails holding the deck to the house and posts.

    http://www.wfmz.com/news/Regional-Poconos-Coal/several-people-injured-after-deck-collapse-interrupts-childs-birthday-party/26854200

    #159262

    looks like the ledger wasn’t lagged, just nailed. yikes. wonder how many people were on the deck, though. article doesn’t say.

    #159264
    NJBuilder
    Pro
    Brick, NJ, 500,000 HAM

    Looks like one crappy built deck.

    #159302
    jaydee
    Pro
    Spencer, Ma., happy 2015

    any bets on
    #1 handyman, no permit

    #2 homeowner – no permit.

    #3 contractor- with a permit.

    #159314

    I sure as heck hope it isn’t #3…

    Robert Shaw -Colorado Deck and Framing
    www.mysteeldeck.com

    #159317
    Thatkid
    Pro

    I can’t get over how many decks have been collapsing and that people can’t seem to understand that they can’t just put in a couple 16s and expect it to be ok.

    #159319
    jaydee
    Pro
    Spencer, Ma., happy 2015

    any bets on
    #1 handyman, no permit
    #2 homeowner – no permit.
    #3 contractor- with a permit

    My vote is #2, diy’er

    #159320

    It amazes me how we live in a world of seat belts, motorcycle helmet laws, helmets on bicycle riders, helmets,arm and knee protectors on skate board, and folks will go for the cheapest price no matter how safe the construction on their homes

    #159324
    utopia78
    Pro
    Toronto, ON

    Wow, that’s awful. Hope they find the builder.

    A Working Pro since 2004

    #159335
    Sprokitz
    Pro
    Eastern shore of, Pa
    #159358

    Why do people think decks can hold unlimited loads of people? You hear of collapses because too many people are on them. That situation was just not right. So sorry for the children who are simply innocent victims.

    #159363
    ChadM
    Moderator
    Rogers, Ohio

    The ledger held on with nails – I have seen that a few times. It also looks like there wasn’t enough posts in the front – you can see two in the video and I am assuming that there is one on the other corner that wasn’t visible. I just don’t get how somebody could build something like that and think that it was safe…

    Chad

    A Working Pro since 1993

    Member since 12/07/2013

    #159364
    jponto07
    Moderator
    Bloomington, IN

    That second video leaves me to believe that the deck is original to the house as they said it wasn’t inspected since it was built. The city apparently knew the deck existed, but must have neglected to inspect the thing. Hopefully they find the person responsible for such a piece of crap.

    Jon P.
    Timber Carpentry & Construction
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    #159447
    DirtyWhiteBoy
    Pro
    Honolulu,, Hi.

    Hopefulyly some guy will get the work to rebuild it. This time to plan.

    #159463
    Calidecks64
    Pro
    Anaheim Hills, Cali

    Come on guys a 16 will hold 150 lbs, so if there’s 15 nails it should hold 15 people.

    #159464
    Calidecks64
    Pro
    Anaheim Hills, Cali

    What is amazing is it held up for many years with just nails.

    #159466
    redwood
    Pro

    I’ve seen a lot of decks that were just nailed to the house and they lasted 25 years. I don’t think it was that uncommon 30 years ago, 10 years ago, yes.

    They talk about it not being up to code. Well most decks built 10 or more years ago are not up to current code. For the longest time there were no guidlines for decks, much less mention in the codebook. It was always left up to the inspector, and we all know how good they were.

    Mark E.

    Pioneer, CA

    Working Pro 1972 - 2015
    Member since Jan 22, 2013
    www.creative-redwood-designs.com

    #159504
    theamcguy
    Pro
    Fayetteville, NC

    It amazes me how we live in a world of seat belts, motorcycle helmet laws, helmets on bicycle riders, helmets,arm and knee protectors on skate board, and folks will go for the cheapest price no matter how safe the construction on their homes

    Yep. That lowest bid comes back to bite you.

    Automotive Pro
    Fayetteville, NC

    #159520
    ChadM
    Moderator
    Rogers, Ohio

    I’ve seen a lot of decks that were just nailed to the house and they lasted 25 years. I don’t think it was that uncommon 30 years ago, 10 years ago, yes.

    True but I have also seen some decks built in the 70’s that had carriage bolts through the ledger. Using nails for the ledger may not have been uncommon but I doubt it was ever considered the best way.

    Chad

    A Working Pro since 1993

    Member since 12/07/2013

    #159531
    kurt@welkerhomes.com
    Moderator
    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    Come on guys a 16 will hold 150 lbs, so if there’s 15 nails it should hold 15 people.

    you got small people out there Cali, only 10 in the midwest, LOL.

    There is a deck where my parents have a timeshare, that is 3 stories, (three levels of decks) that is totally out of code and it was rebuilt that way a few years ago. rail balusters spaced at 5 + inches, beams overspanned, joist overspanned and all Joist hangers fastened with 1.5″ Joist nails, even the slant nail double shear hole. I don’t think that nail can penetrate the ledger by more than a half inch. There are no permits or inspections there.

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