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  • #704028

    Miamicuse
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    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    Looking at the Bosch GSA18V-083 hacksaw.

    Anyone has experience with it?

    I am also looking at the Milwaukee 2719-20 M18 which has a very similar shape.

    How would you compare the two? Anyone owns both?

    The Bosch stroke length is 0.83″ (Is this the reason for the model number 083?) and the Milwaukee is 0.875″.

    I know the Milwaukee is Brushless, but is the Bosch brushed or brushless?

    Here is a video review of the two although the Milwaukee M18 he used is an older version so some specs have changed.

    I am hoping someone here with the Bosch version can comment on what they like and don’t like about the Bosch from personal experiences.

    #704084

    Doobie
    Pro
    Ajax, ON

    Here is a video review of the two although the Milwaukee M18 he used is an older version so some specs have changed.

    I strongly believe he’s a Milwaukee boy. Seems to dismiss the Bosch despite it’s obvious over-performance on most cuts he executes.

    You should also keep in mind that he may have also intentionally or inadvertently skewed results as well via a variety of variables notwithstanding his love of Milwaukee which to me seems obvious.

    How can it be ascertained he’s not using the same quality blades or simply pressing harder on his Milwaukees even subconciously versus when he uses the Bosch? These kinds of uncontrolled ‘comparisons’ are frought with elements like this that make most of them useless to begin with for real side-by-side true comparisons.

    I am hoping someone here with the Bosch version can comment on what they like and don’t like about the Bosch from personal experiences.

    I have all three of the Bosch current ergomically designed recips. They all perform excellently. The other factor you should really consider is that Bosch, while a laggard at having a plethora of varieties in different offerings, is German designed tools with tons of research and a strong quality reputation, whereas Milwaukee imo has almost dropped to DIY Ryobi standards in wanting to rush to market more variety over well designed and durable tools.

    This has been going on for years at Milwaukee staining their reputation imo. I’ve had too many bad Milwaukee tools in the past decade or so to shun them now. If it says “Free” on a Milwaukee tool, I would walk away. It’s actually surprising that many tool conoisseurs have still not picked up on this. Take it for what it is worth, but imo that once great American brand of Milwaukee is not what it was decades ago.

    Kevin.

    Wannabee pro.

    #704097

    Miamicuse
    Pro
    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    I can’t tell if he is biased towards Milwaukee or not, but that’s the most direct comparison available for reference purposes. The specs are similar.

    His conclusion is the Bosch and Milwaukee 18V are pretty much on par.

    However Milwaukee has since come out with the “FUEL” version of this tool that is more efficient, more powerful and brushless so I have to assume the FUEL M18 should perform better.

    One consideration is that Milwaukee is the one who came up with this “hump back” one handed compact saw design, so I have to assume they may be more advanced in this tool. Most likely both tools will do what I need it to do.

    Which three versions do you have? The 10.8V, the 18V compact saw and ?

    #704105

    madman_us
    Pro
    Palm Springs, CA

    Anyone has experience with it?

    I own the GSA18V-083 and use it a lot at work and at home.
    Well I can’t say anything negative about it, powerful and a lot of runtime.

    I know the Milwaukee is Brushless, but is the Bosch brushed or brushless?

    brushed
    if it would be brushless, they would have used EC in the product name

    The Bosch stroke length is 0.83″ (Is this the reason for the model number 083?)

    yes

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    #704122

    theamcguy
    Pro
    Fayetteville, NC

    Miamicuse wrote:

    Anyone has experience with it?

    I own the GSA18V-083 and use it a lot at work and at home.
    Well I can’t say anything negative about it, powerful and a lot of runtime.

    Me either it is is a good saw. As good as the Milwaukee for sure.

    Automotive Pro
    Fayetteville, NC

    #704184

    DirtyWhiteBoy
    Pro
    Honolulu,, Hi.

    Here is a video review of the two although the Milwaukee M18 he used is an older version so some specs have changed.

    I strongly believe he’s a Milwaukee boy. Seems to dismiss the Bosch despite it’s obvious over-performance on most cuts he executes.

    You should also keep in mind that he may have also intentionally or inadvertently skewed results as well via a variety of variables notwithstanding his love of Milwaukee which to me seems obvious.

    How can it be ascertained he’s not using the same quality blades or simply pressing harder on his Milwaukees even subconciously versus when he uses the Bosch? These kinds of uncontrolled ‘comparisons’ are frought with elements like this that make most of them useless to begin with for real side-by-side true comparisons.

    I am hoping someone here with the Bosch version can comment on what they like and don’t like about the Bosch from personal experiences.

    I have all three of the Bosch current ergomically designed recips. They all perform excellently. The other factor you should really consider is that Bosch, while a laggard at having a plethora of varieties in different offerings, is German designed tools with tons of research and a strong quality reputation, whereas Milwaukee imo has almost dropped to DIY Ryobi standards in wanting to rush to market more variety over well designed and durable tools.

    This has been going on for years at Milwaukee staining their reputation imo. I’ve had too many bad Milwaukee tools in the past decade or so to shun them now. If it says “Free” on a Milwaukee tool, I would walk away. It’s actually surprising that many tool conoisseurs have still not picked up on this. Take it for what it is worth, but imo that once great American brand of Milwaukee is not what it was decades ago.

    Great post,, I can tell you’d make a great bosch sales person.

    One consideration is that Milwaukee is the one who came up with this “hump back” one handed compact saw design,

    Hump back yes, one handed no. Makita was the first with the one handed.

    Dirty

    A Working Pro since 1988!

    Member since January 26, 2013.

    #704190

    DirtyWhiteBoy
    Pro
    Honolulu,, Hi.
    #704223

    Miamicuse
    Pro
    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    Thanks DWB. I also found this write up:

    https://www.constructionprotips.com/tools-materials/reviews/2018-best-reciprocating-saw-review-one-handed-recip-saws/

    In this one, Milwaukee and Bosch came out ahead, with Milwaukee having the slight edge, which is what I expected given that the other tests I saw they used standard 18V Milwaukee saw, and in this test it’s the FUEL brushless version. Bosch was able to keep pace with Milwaukee for the most part. The Makita smoked and choked in his tests.

    #704269

    DirtyWhiteBoy
    Pro
    Honolulu,, Hi.

    Thanks DWB. I also found this write up:

    https://www.constructionprotips.com/tools-materials/reviews/2018-best-reciprocating-saw-review-one-handed-recip-saws/

    In this one, Milwaukee and Bosch came out ahead, with Milwaukee having the slight edge, which is what I expected given that the other tests I saw they used standard 18V Milwaukee saw, and in this test it’s the FUEL brushless version. Bosch was able to keep pace with Milwaukee for the most part. The Makita smoked and choked in his tests.

    The tasks they were doing with the small saws is just not what the Makita is designed for or the Ridgid for that matter. It’s for small delicate work to use with a small blade. Makita being the first to market it gives the rest of the tool companies something to beat.

    Dirty

    A Working Pro since 1988!

    Member since January 26, 2013.

    #704276

    Miamicuse
    Pro
    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    Thanks DWB. I also found this write up:

    https://www.constructionprotips.com/tools-materials/reviews/2018-best-reciprocating-saw-review-one-handed-recip-saws/

    In this one, Milwaukee and Bosch came out ahead, with Milwaukee having the slight edge, which is what I expected given that the other tests I saw they used standard 18V Milwaukee saw, and in this test it’s the FUEL brushless version. Bosch was able to keep pace with Milwaukee for the most part. The Makita smoked and choked in his tests.

    The tasks they were doing with the small saws is just not what the Makita is designed for or the Ridgid for that matter. It’s for small delicate work to use with a small blade. Makita being the first to market it gives the rest of the tool companies something to beat.

    True, but the only way to test them us to kind of push the boundaries a bit.

    The Ridgid one crapped out because of the internal thermo switch on the battery. I have experienced it and it’s super annoying.

    But you don’t always get to pick and choose between delicate and not delicate, sometimes it’s both. Say you are trying to fix a leaking 1″ galvanized water line buried 18″ deep and it’s encased in a tangled mess of tree roots. Your excavated down and need to make a cut of this half way submerged pipe in tight space and it needs to cut through sand, iron, wood and who knows what else. Then you need that one handed saw to work because I need to be grabbing feeling the submerged pipe. It needs to be robust and delicate at the same time. I don’t need it to cut zip ties. 🤣

    #704312

    madman_us
    Pro
    Palm Springs, CA

    In May I used the GSA18V-083 for a lot of pruning around the house, including the 6.3ah CORE battery. awesome runtime for a brushed unit

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    #709706

    CB
    Pro

    V i B r A t I o N … V i B r A t I o N … V i B r A t I o N

    That is the standard whereby to judge the utility of a small recip when it comes to “delicate” work.

    #709762

    Miamicuse
    Pro
    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    In May I used the GSA18V-083 for a lot of pruning around the house, including the 6.3ah CORE battery. awesome runtime for a brushed unit

    Kudos to Bosch to make this saw “stand up”.

    My M18 hackzall doesn’t stand up, or if it does, the slightest breeze will blow it over.

    #709812

    DirtyWhiteBoy
    Pro
    Honolulu,, Hi.

    Kudos to Bosch to make this saw “stand up”.

    My M18 hackzall doesn’t stand up, or if it does, the slightest breeze will blow it over.

    A tool that is standing up easily falls down. A tool that is laying down can’t fall down.

    Dirty

    A Working Pro since 1988!

    Member since January 26, 2013.

    #709821

    Miamicuse
    Pro
    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    A tool that is standing up easily falls down. A tool that is laying down can’t fall down.

    That’s not what Confucius said.

    Confucius said “A tool that’s laying down is a tool that FAILED to stand up”.

    #709908

    CB
    Pro

    Fat bases don’t fit in places.

    Seneca

    (Or was it Metallica?)

    #712908

    GTokley
    Pro
    Madoc, ON

    Looking at the Bosch GSA18V-083 hacksaw.

    Anyone has experience with it?

    I am also looking at the Milwaukee 2719-20 M18 which has a very similar shape.

    How would you compare the two? Anyone owns both?

    The Bosch stroke length is 0.83″ (Is this the reason for the model number 083?) and the Milwaukee is 0.875″.

    I know the Milwaukee is Brushless, but is the Bosch brushed or brushless?

    Here is a video review of the two although the Milwaukee M18 he used is an older version so some specs have changed.

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    I am hoping someone here with the Bosch version can comment on what they like and don’t like about the Bosch from personal experiences.

    I have been looking at this recip saw for awhile. After using my old NI CAD battery recip saw while doing some reno work. I realized it was time to get a better recip saw. It isn’t a tool I use very often. When I use it I want it to work til the end of the job.

    In May I used the GSA18V-083 for a lot of pruning around the house, including the 6.3ah CORE battery. awesome runtime for a brushed unit

    I sure this tool would be nice for pruning.

    Greg

    instagram.com/gregtokley/

    #713552

    GTokley
    Pro
    Madoc, ON

    I put a request in for this saw this week. I can’t wait to try it. I also have pruning blade for it.

    Greg

    instagram.com/gregtokley/

    #713585

    Miamicuse
    Pro
    Fort Lauderdale, Florida

    I received mine last week.

    I used it (with a 6.3ah core battery) to cut some PT 2X4s side by side with the Milwaukee FUEL 18V compact saw (with a 5ah battery) and the Milwaukee did better faster (most likely due to it bring brushless).

    As far as balance they feel about the same. So the Bosch saw will be a backup compact saw.

    I don’t use a compact saw that often, usually the full recip. saw (and I am thinking about the multi-grip Bosch), in close quarters or when one handed operation is important then I use the compact saw. I have never done pruning with it, usually I will get the chainsaw out for that. If I prune I still have to break down the branches so they fit into the collection cart and using this saw will be too slow on breaking down. Plus I prefer using a pole on a chainsaw for the reach instead of being on a ladder with a short saw.

    #713604

    GTokley
    Pro
    Madoc, ON

    I received mine last week.

    I saw that you received yours last week.

    I don’t use a compact saw that often, usually the full recip. saw (and I am thinking about the multi-grip Bosch), in close quarters or when one handed operation is important then I use the compact saw. I have never done pruning with it, usually I will get the chainsaw out for that. If I prune I still have to break down the branches so they fit into the collection cart and using this saw will be too slow on breaking down. Plus I prefer using a pole on a chainsaw for the reach instead of being on a ladder with a short saw.

    I am hoping this compact recip will suit my needs. I too have a chainsaw & pole saw. I feel for smaller branches a recip saw would be safer then chainsaw. Plus a recip is much lighter to handle then chainsaw. Most times I just need to trim a few branches. So makes sense to use the recip saw.

    Greg

    instagram.com/gregtokley/

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