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    When you hire a new guy – do you give him written rules of conduct?

    What are you top 5 rules?

    ~ Rob at http://www.ConcordCarpenter.com
    #14360

    Ok none of you have rules for new hires????

    ~ Rob at http://www.ConcordCarpenter.com
    #14396

    I’ve never had a big problem in the past where I’ve thought I needed written rules. Verbal expectations with a handshake initially, reminders if they are being stretched, and ultimatums if it is a serious issue, such as blatant disrespect of the rules.

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    woodman_412
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    If I hired people I would :)

    #14456

    I agree a firm handshake and being reliable
    Is good enough for me

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    Calidecks64
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    Anaheim Hills, Cali

    I try not to be too strict with workers . However I do lay down exactly what I won’t tolerate when they start. Like drugs, being late ( when a guy is constantly late it is very disrespectful IMO) not showing up without calling in. And interrupting me while I’m talking to the HO. I had a kid once jump right in a conversation about mirrors in a bathroom I was remodeling. He went from sweeping to explaining what he thought was the right ones. He was probably 19 years old. The problem was what he was telling the HO wasn’t even close to being in my budget. I said we don’t need your input and it’s not your job. I almost had to buy the HO mirrors that were 4 times the cost then what he was paying for.

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    ChadM
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    East Palestine, Ohio

    I don’t have too many rules. The big ones that explained to everybody are:

    1. Be on time

    2. Show up sober – I don’t care what you do on your time but I don’t want you drunk or high at work.

    3. I am not a taxi service – if you want to meet me at the shop and ride with me, that’s fine. But don’t expect me to pick you up at your house everyday.

    4. Wear appropriate clothes. If we are remodeling someones kitchen don’t show up wearing a shirt that says “I love BJ’s” (that one happened).

    5. Remember that I am the boss. I will listen to your opinion on how to do things but in the end that is my decision.

    Chad | Housewright Construction | www.yourhousewright.com | Member since 12/07/2013
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    Calidecks64
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    Anaheim Hills, Cali

    And of course there’s the “Golden Rule” “the guy with the gold rules”

    I tell my workers this is not a democracy it’s a straight dictatorship. We don’t vote for anything on my jobs!

    #84291
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    mattryyc
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    Calgary, Alberta

    I tell my workers this is not a democracy it’s a straight dictatorship. We don’t vote for anything on my jobs!

    If you pay ‘em that’s the way it ought to roll. If they think they can do it better, they can try it when they’re paying the bills.

    That’s the downside of the labor market around here, so hard to find people some people put up with way too much and the guy paying the wages ends up suffering in the end for it.

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    MKE_Voltage
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    Saint Francis, WI

    5. Remember that I am the boss. I will listen to your opinion on how to do things but in the end that is my decision.

    I see this as a trend and I would agree that it is essential. As soon as other guys start thinking they run the show you loose all control over the job.

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    kurt@welkerhomes.com
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    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    I dont but I should. It has been on my to do list for a long time. It is something I plan to focus on this winter/\.

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    ChadM
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    East Palestine, Ohio

    5. Remember that I am the boss. I will listen to your opinion on how to do things but in the end that is my decision.

    I see this as a trend and I would agree that it is essential. As soon as other guys start thinking they run the show you loose all control over the job.

    I keep an open mind – I have had guys sway me on how I do certain things, if they have a way that is better, or faster, or more efficient and still results in the quality of my way then I am all for it. But I have hired a couple guys who refused to do things the way I wanted them done – those guys didn’t last long. For example, I hired a carpenter to work with me, pretty good guy – we built a deck and didn’t have any issues. Our next job was putting in some crown – about 800 L.F. I like to rip 2x’s on an angle and attach them to the wall so that I can nail my crown wherever I want. I realize it isn’t necessary but that is how I do it and I charged to do it that way. He refused, said it the dumbest thing he ever heard – fired him on the spot.

    Chad | Housewright Construction | www.yourhousewright.com | Member since 12/07/2013
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    jkirk
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    halifax, nova scotia

    1)be on time, help set up and break down gear

    2) when asked to do something do it, and in the manner your asked to do it

    3) dont give attitude your the new guy

    4) if the client asks you do to something that isn`t within your scope of work for the day tell them that they will have to bring it up with the Gc first so that its accounted for in the billing if its an extra

    5) dont steal from the company

    putting down subfloor with glue and screws, so i called dr smith and the robot too!
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    ChadM
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    East Palestine, Ohio

    1)be on time, help set up and break down gear

    2) when asked to do something do it, and in the manner your asked to do it

    3) dont give attitude your the new guy

    4) if the client asks you do to something that isn`t within your scope of work for the day tell them that they will have to bring it up with the Gc first so that its accounted for in the billing if its an extra

    5) dont steal from the company

    Not stealing is a big one. I have had to fire a couple guys for taking materials.

    Chad | Housewright Construction | www.yourhousewright.com | Member since 12/07/2013
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    Calidecks64
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    Anaheim Hills, Cali

    Once had a laborer I asked to push decking up against a spacer and stay ahead of me as I screw the decking down with face screws. I was using a Simpson QuikDrive. He jumped up said this is skilled labor and if I wanted him to do this job I would have to pay him more for it. It was his third day working for me. He went on to say “this is more then just pushing a broom”. Well I keep ” I’m pissed” checks in the truck. When I fire someone, I actually pay them for the rest of the day. I said “here I paid you for the whole day, I don’t need you anymore”.

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    ChadM
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    East Palestine, Ohio

    To answer the original question; no, I don’t hand out written rules of conduct. I have an employee handbook in the works (covers rules of conduct, safety rules, use of PPE, etc) but have never got around to finishing it. I am back to being a one man show for now, the helper I had left to go to school – I will probably try to hire someone in the spring, maybe I will have it done by then.

    Chad | Housewright Construction | www.yourhousewright.com | Member since 12/07/2013
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    Dabbs
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    I think your rules are plenty fair and square Chad, I wish I had just those few all my life to deal with when working for someone. Although I’ve never been fired from a job but on some of the rules I’ve had to do some fancy dancing around LOL.

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    jkirk
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    halifax, nova scotia

    not stealing tools is a big one anywhere.. olfa knife blades and pencils disappear constantly on our sites there safe nowhere

    putting down subfloor with glue and screws, so i called dr smith and the robot too!
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    MRenes
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    Vienna, Missouri

    not stealing tools is a big one anywhere.. olfa knife blades and pencils disappear constantly on our sites there safe nowhere

    Amen

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    ChadM
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    East Palestine, Ohio

    not stealing tools is a big one anywhere.. olfa knife blades and pencils disappear constantly on our sites there safe nowhere

    I had one guy that was going back to the job site in the evenings and taking lumber. I forgot my coffee thermos at a pole barn we were building – when I pulled in to get it there he was loading plywood in his truck.

    Chad | Housewright Construction | www.yourhousewright.com | Member since 12/07/2013
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