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Hardwood Floors: Cleat nails or staples?

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    When installing hardwood flooring if your going to use a mechanical fastener to hold the floor down you have two choices: cleat nails or staples.The question I often get asked is whats the difference? and What’s the best quality?

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    Dabbs
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    What do you prefer? I’ve only done the floating flooring

    #11989

    I prefer cleat nails but my current nailer is a staple nailer.

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    parenos
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    Honesdale, PA

    I started using cleats, but the last two floors used staples, I just get the feeling that the staples hold better, not that there has ever been a problem with cleats. I think both are great as long as install correctly, that the biggest issue I see is people not putting enough fasteners into the floor.

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    I’ve used the staples. But good to a different
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    #22830

    I’ve found cleats hold better in lumber i.e pine subfloors.
    But they are not recommended for plywood or OSB subfloors.
    I have a nailer that can use both and mostly go with staples.

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    kurt@welkerhomes.com
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    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    Typically staples. Seems to be faster and hane never had a problem with the hold

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    jkirk
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    halifax, nova scotia

    i rarely lay hardwood but when i have its always been staples, all the hardwood guys hire use staples also

    putting down subfloor with glue and screws, so i called dr smith and the robot too!
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    redwood
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    I also use staples for the few times that I lay hardwood floors.

    Mark E.
    Los Gatos, CA
    www.creative-redwood-designs.com
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    kurt@welkerhomes.com
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    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    We typically use staples

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    kzcarp
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    I use staples also. I don’t feel like the cleat nails hold as well in old board subfloors, and have had some repairs where the cleat has split tongues. Less tendency for a staple to do that.

    kevin

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    kurt@welkerhomes.com
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    Owatonna, MN - Minnesota

    I would agree Kevin t, that the Staples with the tongue a lot less than the cleats

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    Calidecks64
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    Anaheim Hills, Cali

    I used cleat nails on this floor, came out good.

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    #60436

    Both of them seem to work equally well for us. We’ve used nailers in the past that but our current gear is mostly staplers, which hold fine – no warranty issues so far.

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    mattryyc
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    Calgary, Alberta

    This past week we installed 480 sq ft of hard maple. I’d estimate roughly half of that work was removing the old underlayment – particle board under vinyl that was PL’d and stapled down to the OSB subfloor. After pulling staples on my knees for two straight days and demo’ing with a Bosch Bulldog with a tile blade I could tell you that staples hold better. My nailer is a 3-in-1 Freeman that will shoot either, so I went with the staples.

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    #67764
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    MRenes
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    Vienna, Missouri

    Staples is what I used the one time I did it

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